Posts by Heaven

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I was disfellowshipped because of Satan

by elbib in

during co visit, i took him for a bible study i was conducting.

during the session, the householder said he believed satan was not a person, but personification of evil within us.

i left co to handle householder’s doubt.

Heaven

I have to agree with the householder's and your definition of evil elbib.

Evil starts as a choice to do something bad. This lives within all of us. If Jesus was a real person, he, too, had this within him.

It was Christianity that decided to personify, externalize, and elevate evil to the status of person-hood by giving it a proper, formal name. By doing this, Christianity has exonerated themselves from the responsibility of evil, ie the choice to do bad. It is where "The Devil Made Me Do It" ideal originated. Just think on that for a bit and what that actually means.

James Mixon said: Satan became an Angel of light for you, go figure.

elbib, WTWizard has some interesting thoughts on the whole Satan - God - Bible thing.

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Wifely Subjection: Mental Health Issues in Jehovah’s Witness Women

by defender of truth in

what do you think of this article?.

is there anything that relates to your own experience?.

i just came across it while searching for references on the consequences of sexism in the jw organization.. www.icsahome.com/articles/wifely-subjection--mental-health-issues-in-jw-women-csj-14-1.

Heaven

Hey DOT, thanks for posting this. I'll have to read it later but just my 2 cents worth on the topic... I watched my Mom lose her individuality and become chronically ill in large part due to this ideology.

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Is this for real???

by RocketQueen in

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is this a real thing or has someone designed this as a joke?http://wp.production.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/files/2016/03/jwmaze.jpg

Heaven

You should see the video... it came before that maze.

Edited to add: I see someone has posted it on YouTube so I'll add a link here. (I don't like linking to JWdotBorg if it's there):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8pL-LnqNyw

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My sister denounced the two elders

by opusdei1972 in

yesterday my sister presented, against the two stalker elders, a complaint before the district prosecutor.

the prosecutor said to my sister that in the country there are freedom of religion, so it is totally illegal to accuse a person loudly in the street before her neighbors , and to insist for going to a illegal judicial questioning.

she even showed to the prosecutor a past notification in which she asked to the elders a written document specifying the charge of apostasy so as to attend the judiciary meeting with her attorney.

Heaven

Good for her.

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Would crime rate go up if we were 100% positive this is the only life???

by James Mixon in

no resurrection, no 70 virgins, no 7 millions jw's living for thousand of years, no coming.

back as dog or cat you are dead and done..

Heaven

I say No, because there are many people already living their lives this way today. They aren't out committing crimes but actually living - working, shopping, preparing dinner, raising their children, enjoying hobbies, etc.

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Excellent Conversation At Literature Trolley

by cofty in

yesterday my wife and i enjoyed one of our regular days out at edinburgh - movie, lunch, walk, meal etc.. in the late afternoon while mrs cofty went shopping i had an hour at the excellent museum of scotland and arranged to meet up outside the national gallery on princes street.

on my way back i saw the jw trolley was at the usual spot on the royal mile.

there was an older man and a young woman standing well back trying hard to look inconspicuous.

Heaven

LOL @ steve2

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Christians Know Who God Is

by Loi_241 in

many of us christians have a good question for you to ask, “who is god?” there are more than six scriptures to share with you.

you know the bible itself a true message for all the people on earth.

the bible explains ‘in the beginning god created everything: heaven, earth, animals, people and everything.’ thus, you notice god created humans, adam and eve.

Heaven

The original 'bible' doesn't exist. All we have now are translations.

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Another JW Literature Trolly Experience

by Athanasius in

this morning i stopped at dollar general to get a cheap container for waste paper.

it was 11:30 am and there were two jw literature trolleys parked near the store and manned by three jws, on old man in a rolling chair, a 30 something man, and 30 something woman.

as i walked by them i glanced at the their literature rack and proceeded into the store.. i was in the store for 20 minutes and made my purchase.

Heaven

Athanasius said: I found it interesting that the leaflet said it was printed in Canada. But this experience took place in Santa Rosa, California, USA. Is Canada doing the bulk of JW printing now?

Yes, it was a few years back... some, if not all, of the U.S. printing moved to Canada.

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Christians Know Who God Is

by Loi_241 in

many of us christians have a good question for you to ask, “who is god?” there are more than six scriptures to share with you.

you know the bible itself a true message for all the people on earth.

the bible explains ‘in the beginning god created everything: heaven, earth, animals, people and everything.’ thus, you notice god created humans, adam and eve.

Heaven

None of the authors of the Bible ever met Jesus.

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Excellent Conversation At Literature Trolley

by cofty in

yesterday my wife and i enjoyed one of our regular days out at edinburgh - movie, lunch, walk, meal etc.. in the late afternoon while mrs cofty went shopping i had an hour at the excellent museum of scotland and arranged to meet up outside the national gallery on princes street.

on my way back i saw the jw trolley was at the usual spot on the royal mile.

there was an older man and a young woman standing well back trying hard to look inconspicuous.

Heaven

Cofty said: I did suggest to John that he should check out "Why Evolution is True" by Jerry Coyne. Of all the basic books on evolution it is perhaps the easiest to grasp.

Oh, excellent, Cofty. I am glad you gave him somewhere to start. I like that you have a strategy to focus on more easier evolutionary concepts to grasp. Making it relatable is a great idea. Again, so well done.