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  I need help, I'm falling in love with a JW girl

  by nebula-- in

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  so i met her at my last job that i worked & we started off as friends.

  i didn't know her faith at the time & i honestly couldn't have cared less, seeing as i'm agnostic.

  after about a year, i began developing emotions for her & sure enough, we ended up dating for a little while.

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  Do you know what it means to be a JW? Do your research. Because that's what you're going to have to be in order to have this girl. If she says no you don't have to be, then be prepared to be hounded your entire life by her as well as others to join.
  

  No blood transfusions if your child is born a blue baby, or your wife is bleeding out in childbirth or any of you are in a bad car accident and need blood or you develop some condition that requires blood products.
  

  No Christmas, Easter, Thanksgiving, Birthdays, Cinqo de Mayo, etc, etc.

  Spending most of your free time attending conventions, assemblies, meetings, and going door to door in field serve-us. They are discouraging 'the sisters' not to marry unless the men are a Ministerial Servant or an Elder so be prepared to reach for these 'privileges' (aka work more for them for free).

  Shunning disfellowshipped JWs including family and not having much to do with non-JW family.

  Unquestioning loyalty to an organization with a flawed set of doctrines.

  Have you researched the origins of the Bible? That might also be a wise idea.
  
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  Bro. Schroeder dies

  by bythesea in

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  i just received this news from a bro who has connections in bethel.... .

  bro albert d schroeder died at 10:30 am new york time today at brooklyn bethel...he was 94 yrs old.. he was born on april 7, 1911 in saginaw, michigan and entered bethel service in 1932. he was appointed a member of the governing body on december 18, 1974. bro schroeder's life story appeared in the march 1, '88 wt pages 10-17: entitled: "my life in jehovah's spirit-directed organization.".

  i don't know if the "today" means it was actually today...as i can't be sure when my friend received this news... but anyway, another of the old guys bites the dust.. .

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  This guy has been dead for 10 years. And STILL, Armageddon has not arrived.
  
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  The Atheist Delusion

  by looter in

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  2. friends

  atheist delusion.

  just want to know what the ex jw community thinks about this video and also offer my pov.

  the video was actually an advertisement on here.

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  Ironically, much of what looter posts is delusional.
  
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  Why A Divine Being is Possible

  by looter in

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  now we all have heard how the universe is composed of matter and space.

  and we always here of how it had a beginning.

  but really what could have begun it?

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  The ancient's who worshipped the Sun as God were closer to real divine truth than the 3 main faiths of today. Remove our Sun and we all perish.
  

  
  
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  Even Non-JW's Recall 1975

  by snugglebunny in

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  2. friends

  last night.

  pub quiz.

  12 teams, somewhere in darkest england.. category: eternal flame.

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  My former team lead worked with a guy who was a JW back then. This JW sold his house and quit his job in 1975 anticipating the coming of Armageddon. So there are those who were not JWs that knew JWs at that time and watched the JW craziness from the sidelines. Guess that guy had to find a new house and a new job.
  
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  NEWS 5 INVESTIGATES: Sex offender going door-to-door

  by OrphanCrow in

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  2. child-abuse

  http://www.koaa.com/story/32799137/news-5-investigates-sex-offender-going-door-to-door.

  by carlos vergara, investigative reporter.

  colorado springs -66 year old waymon ivery is re-living a nightmare that happened more than two decades ago.

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  It would be interesting to find numbers on military people who are pedophiles after they've seen action because this is news to me... that having PTSD from war can cause someone to be a child rapist.

  Remember what was presented at the ARC:

  
  
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  Got my JC cancelled... (at least for now)

  by Sanchy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so my wife and i have been in the process of fading for a few months now as per my original post here.

  about a week ago, i was browsing some ex-jw facebook groups when i saw a post that linked to the crisis of conscience book.

  i said "f@(k it" and hit share on it.. a few hours later, i get a long text letter from my mom (who was a fb friend of mine) telling me the typical "good luck finding friends in the world" and how we have "nothing in common anymore"; basically, it was a 'farewell' text.

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  Sanchy said: ...I get a long text letter from my mom (who was a FB friend of mine) telling me the typical "good luck finding friends in the world" and how we have "nothing in common anymore"

  You could point out to her that you do still have the 23 chromosomes from her.
  
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  Why the story of Noah's ark is scientifically impossible: Minimum Viable Population

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  i didn't know this but there is a way to calculate the minimum population required for a certain species to survive over the next 100 to 1000 years.

  this is called the "minimum viable population".. genesis states that 2 (or 7) of each "kind" went into the ark.

  supposing that each "kind" means each "species", and they all could fit in the ark, and they came out safely, most of the species would have died, because it is impossible to survive, long-term, with a starting population of 2.this is interesting:"an mvp of 500 to 1,000 has often been given as an average for terrestrial vertebrates when inbreeding or genetic variability is ignored.

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  TheOldHippie said: How on Earth could I be in possession of a somprehensive list of hundreds of thousands of insect species and their whereabouts during the flood? I think Earthworms and others would have plenty of food and survival opportunities outside the ark. I did not say none were inside, I said they survived well outside - as far as I can think of. Why or how could I make out a comprehensive list?

  I ask because you seem to have extra knowledge of the flood event that isn't part of the story. No where does it state the creatures taken onto the ark 'survived' or dwelled outside of the ark during the flood.
  

  Also, there are actually millions of species of insects. Earthworms would not have survived outside of the ark as they dwell in soil but cannot dwell in it when it is saturated.
  

  
  
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  Why the story of Noah's ark is scientifically impossible: Minimum Viable Population

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

  1. jw
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  i didn't know this but there is a way to calculate the minimum population required for a certain species to survive over the next 100 to 1000 years.

  this is called the "minimum viable population".. genesis states that 2 (or 7) of each "kind" went into the ark.

  supposing that each "kind" means each "species", and they all could fit in the ark, and they came out safely, most of the species would have died, because it is impossible to survive, long-term, with a starting population of 2.this is interesting:"an mvp of 500 to 1,000 has often been given as an average for terrestrial vertebrates when inbreeding or genetic variability is ignored.

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  TheOldHippie said: Insects survived outside of the ark, the water was full of debris of rotting trees, plants, corpses etc., so they had lots to thrive on. Fish and water mammals survived outside too.

  So are you saying there were no insects taken aboard the ark? Or do you have a comprehensive list of those that were versus those that were not. Because Earthworms wouldn't survive if they weren't taken aboard the ark. There are many soil species that when exposed to air, or salt water or too much water, die.

  How did fresh water fish and mammals survive in salt water?
  
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  Elders Advice Backfired And Now Im The Happiest I've Ever Been

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just wanted to update you guys of the amazing couple of weeks i've had in recovering from the cult.. i was attending the meetings still just so i could see my daughter in the kingdom hall and have her sit we me half the time.

  i had no intention of ever becoming a jw again but was hoping to be re-instated and just not turn up ever again so i could at least see my family.

  but then an elder said something to me that changed all that.

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  PE... love equals abuse in this religion. Your experience shows that. As for 'being part of a "loving" (aka abusive) family' there is nothing... ABSOLUTELY NOTHING... that Botchtower can do to change the fact that you are your daughter's Father. I do hope you can still be a part of her life. Show her unconditional love. She will soon see the difference between them and you.