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  my story (part 2)

  by Jason Melita in

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  a little background, both my parents are from very large families ( i have over 70 first cousins).

  so i have always felt very fortunate to have something to do with my wordly family maybe twice a year to spend a few days with my grandparents on my fathers side, who are the two most wonderful people i have known ( grandad is a devout roman catholic) grandma i honestly don't think gives a shit lol.

  as you could guess my sister and little brother blame association like this as good reasons why i never went with the organisation.

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  Jason said: yeh I was. I was also lucky not to have gotten baptised.

  Yes! This is key. I cannot stress enough the importance of remaining UNBAPTIZED . NEVER get baptized into this religion. E-V-E-R!
  

  Me and my brothers were never baptized so the Borg had no real stance/power to say our parents should be shunning us. The Borg did try to get them to 'kick their unbelieving family to the curb'. But blood is thicker than religious hurtful clap-trap. At times, our parents didn't treat us nicely, but at least we weren't 100% shunned.
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  Inevitable Life - Video

  by cofty in

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  very interesting lecture and q&a session by professor eric smith of the santa fe institute.

  in his discussion of the primacy of energy there is a lot of overlap with the ideas of nick lane of university college london.

  if you still think abiogenesis had something to do with "primordial soup" you should invest half an hour to watch this.. ....

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  Thank you for posting this cofty. I may have to view it more than once also. He went a bit fast for this getting-older-when-I-wasn't-supposed-to person. I thought this image was very interesting. Religion makes out like we are da-bomb of all species when we are just one small spec in the giant dichotomy on this Earth. Also, why doesn't the Bible mention bacteria? They are fundamental to life on this planet and a very key part of ensuring materials are re-purposed back into more life. And they were here long before plants, animals and fungi.
  

  
  
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  ls homosexuality really normal?

  by atomant in

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  l know animals do it but their animals.they dont live by a moral code.the thought of 2 men going for it is not normal.what are your thoughts?.

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  Counting time

  by Emma in

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  2. scandals

  i may not have put this in the correct spot, but i do think it's scandalous the way time gets counted now.

  i've seen a cart at the edge of our farmer's market, never anyone close enough to talk.

  yesterday was a drizzly day and there were two carts set up, covered in plastic, "witnessing" on their own.

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  And to add to what Sir82 said... counting time is a mechanism to browbeat the members - a tool to Control. It is part of the FOG (Fear, Obligation, Guilt) methodology to have power over the peons.
  
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  Counting time

  by Emma in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i may not have put this in the correct spot, but i do think it's scandalous the way time gets counted now.

  i've seen a cart at the edge of our farmer's market, never anyone close enough to talk.

  yesterday was a drizzly day and there were two carts set up, covered in plastic, "witnessing" on their own.

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  It would appear that Jehovah's Chariot has slammed into reverse.
  
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  Elder's remark about contributions not being made

  by Simon Templar in

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  i am still in and was assigned to collect the contribution after the meeting.

  i checked the boxes with another brother and there was nothing inside.

  no contributions were made that day.

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  Heaven

  There are some good images to print off and put in the contribution box at the link below. A couple are:

  

  
  

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/109507/watchtower-money-new-contribution-program?size=20&page=1
  
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  my story (part one)

  by Jason Melita in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hi, my name is jason.

  i was born in 1987 in nsw, australia into a jehovahs witness household (my parents were baptised mere months before i was born) with 2 older siblings (brother and sister) and in time a younger brother.

  i had a pretty happy childhood, we moved to north brisbane by the time i was 5 years old.

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  Hi Jason, welcome to the board.

  Children can smell BS a mile off. They haven't been co-erced yet by the authorities. Logic, reason, and reality don't match religious fantasies/scriptural interpretation being passed off as truth.

  I was 10 when I started questioning the overall claim that God is loving but does nothing to help people in need (aka Theodicy). The Ethiopian famine of the 1970s was raging, killing 100s of thousands of people. The reason my Mom gave me when I questioned her about why God did not intervene was that Jehovah had turned his back on mankind because we could not stop sinning. I didn't say anything to her but it was then that I deduced God was a douchebag and it didn't really matter whether he actually existed or not. I was going to live my life without this prick.

  I look forward to more of your story. And keep on with the critical thinking. It will save you from a lot of charlatons.
  
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  What were Jesus's 'Miracles' supposed to prove?

  by nicolaou in

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  the healings, feeding the five thousand, walking on water, resurrecting the dead.

  none of it happened of course but let's take the bible literally and say that it did.. so?.

  didn't magic practicing priests perform 'miracles' in a contest with aaron?

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  The Jesus myths, particularly the one that states he is the Son of God sent to redeem us all, were used to prop up the importance of the new cult called Christianity. It's a 'my God is better than your God' stance. They needed to be able to validate and convince others of their new found monotheistic beliefs, as they were trying to gain membership. There were also many sects/offshoots doing their own thing at the time. The early Christians wanted to get this all under control and standardized.
  

  
  
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  The Cult Guide To Raising Children

  by pale.emperor in

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  something you're not likely to see in the "secret to family happiness" book.

  the borg's guide to raising children:.

  put the borgs needs, desires and agenda before the children every time, all the time.

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  Heaven

  So on the Harry Potter movie thing... my father was questioning me, his adult daughter, for planning on going to see the Harry Potter movies back when they came out.

  I just looked at him and said "Dad. These are just movies. They aren't real."

  He kind of smiled and relaxed after I said that.

  You should have seen the suspicious looks my Hobby Farm Home magazine received from him a few years back too. Yes, can't you just feel the demunz oozing out of this :

  
  
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  Inappropriate Behavior

  by rebelfighter in

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  2. friends

  now i know i am getting older or of the older generation.

  i have had a very strange day with a lot of strange dealings with people with strange behavior today but this one incident was just over the top.

  so i came out of a store in a busy shopping center.

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  You ain't seen anything until your father walks out naked in front of you... and then starts peeing all over the floor.