so we were at another family members home for a random celebration when the nature channel showed a killer whale eating a seal and my sister in law was horrified.
we made a joke about the circle of life and i said something along the lines of 'everything that lives must die, the bible says every king must die, so even jesus wasn't immune'.
after that comment there was an awkward silence with our jw family whispering to each other about my comment of dying.. once upon a time i asked my uber elder jw brother if he thought that he would not die and he asked me if i knew when god would start armageddon.
smiddy is spot on. When I started learning more about the natural processes on Earth, it suddenly hit me, in order for there to be life there MUST be death. Put another way, death feeds life.
It was then that I realized how f'ed up all religion is that believes death is due to sin.
3 questions i hit my jw mum with:.
first question: do you believe that god is love?
third question: do you think a god of love would choose to destroy me for not doing something i cannot do (be a jw) because i am not convinced rather than convince me beyond doubt?
LOL @ Vidiot.
Yeah, they use their fall backs of 'you don't have enough faith' and 'I'll pray for you' which both mean absolutely bupkis. They're meant to kill the conversation.
3 questions i hit my jw mum with:.
first question: do you believe that god is love?
third question: do you think a god of love would choose to destroy me for not doing something i cannot do (be a jw) because i am not convinced rather than convince me beyond doubt?
Divergent said: Her answer: You don't want to be convinced.
"No Mom, I refuse to be bamboozled."
Divergent, you did an excellent job with your statements.
Several years ago I had a discussion with a couple of Christian Support Workers at my Dad's nursing home. At the end of our conversation one of them said "I will pray for you." as obviously, I wasn't a believer.
I can honestly say, her prayers aren't working. To this day, I remain unconvinced in the existence of any Sky Daddy spirit-being.
as i have revealed in other threads my mother and i havent talked in over 2 years.
she has been keeping her distance, therefore staying loyal to jehovah.
she found me on facebook.
HereIgo said: Was there a recent study article written about reaching out to "inactive" ones?
Maybe it's the annual 'Armageddon is so close' push?
It's a good question though as my cousin who hasn't spoken to me in over 7 years recently emailed me twice. So far there has been no mention of the religion in his correspondence though. I wonder if it will in any future ones.
not playing their game, as i've learned here.
they came to my door to find me with a full beard and a nightmare before christmas hoody, playing a video game where the characters "do not act according to bible principles", and i happily answered the door.
i simply smiled and told them no when they asked if i have a minute.
blondie said: That elder shouts: Are you saying that the WTS is not God's organization.
Husband: No, you said it.
It seems to me, from many of the stories I've read here, that this is what the elders are really after. They aren't trying to encourage anyone. They are trying to 'keep the Borganization clean'. It also seems to me, that by this very action, they are actually accomplishing the exact opposite. :0/
yes, it's true, geoffrey jackson, the cleverest member of the governing body, is going apostate.. he's already written two scholarly books, the question is .... when is his third book going to be released!!.....
desirousofchange: "faded" is definitely only an "apostate" term.
i don't know of it being used by wt publications or "in the dark" jwsberrygerry: geoff jackson used it during the arc..
Interesting. Does anyone know what condition his health is in?
Perhaps being dragged through the ARC and his old, ailing Father who should have seen Armageddon arrive already, have been enough (among many other things that have gone on as of late) for him to have doubts.
I've said it before and I'll say it again... with the many changes that this religion has seen over many decades, any long term JW has got to be scratching their heads and wondering. It would not surprise me if a lot have serious doubts.
okay there has been lots of buzz about the feb 2017 wt where they say the governing body is not inspired nor infallible.
yet, they are still using the baptism questions.
the second one being... "do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of jehovah’s witnesses in association with god’s spirit-directedorganization?".
If the GB are being directed by some kind of spirit, this is the only kind involved:
so, this will be a time of much confusion.
being a born in, and wanting to celebrate my first christmas is confusing, nerve wracking, and difficult to comprehend.
how have others dealt with there first christmas after leaving?
I like this Christmas Yule tree topper....
i think it's great.
when i read posts on here i have to use a dictionary because of the high level of intellectual words yet, when i read a wtbts publication, i have to ignore all the bad grammar and punctuation!
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I guess the old adage "Know your audience" applies here.
link to the letter.. has anyone ever heard or seen this happen before?
for those of you who can't go to the site, here is the content: .
ibm ceo ginni rometty's letter to the u.s. president-elect.
slimboyfat said: Too long.
Agreed, although perhaps she doesn't expect Trump to
read it but expects an advisor to. She certainly doesn't want any 35% tax levy. I wonder if we'll ever hear about the next phase of this.
