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  Why the story of Noah's ark is scientifically impossible: Minimum Viable Population

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  9 years ago

  i didn't know this but there is a way to calculate the minimum population required for a certain species to survive over the next 100 to 1000 years.

  this is called the "minimum viable population".. genesis states that 2 (or 7) of each "kind" went into the ark.

  supposing that each "kind" means each "species", and they all could fit in the ark, and they came out safely, most of the species would have died, because it is impossible to survive, long-term, with a starting population of 2.this is interesting:"an mvp of 500 to 1,000 has often been given as an average for terrestrial vertebrates when inbreeding or genetic variability is ignored.

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  TheOldHippie said: How on Earth could I be in possession of a somprehensive list of hundreds of thousands of insect species and their whereabouts during the flood? I think Earthworms and others would have plenty of food and survival opportunities outside the ark. I did not say none were inside, I said they survived well outside - as far as I can think of. Why or how could I make out a comprehensive list?

  I ask because you seem to have extra knowledge of the flood event that isn't part of the story. No where does it state the creatures taken onto the ark 'survived' or dwelled outside of the ark during the flood.
  

  Also, there are actually millions of species of insects. Earthworms would not have survived outside of the ark as they dwell in soil but cannot dwell in it when it is saturated.
  

  
  

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  Why the story of Noah's ark is scientifically impossible: Minimum Viable Population

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  9 years ago

  i didn't know this but there is a way to calculate the minimum population required for a certain species to survive over the next 100 to 1000 years.

  this is called the "minimum viable population".. genesis states that 2 (or 7) of each "kind" went into the ark.

  supposing that each "kind" means each "species", and they all could fit in the ark, and they came out safely, most of the species would have died, because it is impossible to survive, long-term, with a starting population of 2.this is interesting:"an mvp of 500 to 1,000 has often been given as an average for terrestrial vertebrates when inbreeding or genetic variability is ignored.

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  TheOldHippie said: Insects survived outside of the ark, the water was full of debris of rotting trees, plants, corpses etc., so they had lots to thrive on. Fish and water mammals survived outside too.

  So are you saying there were no insects taken aboard the ark? Or do you have a comprehensive list of those that were versus those that were not. Because Earthworms wouldn't survive if they weren't taken aboard the ark. There are many soil species that when exposed to air, or salt water or too much water, die.

  How did fresh water fish and mammals survive in salt water?
  

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  Elders Advice Backfired And Now Im The Happiest I've Ever Been

  by pale.emperor in

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  9 years ago

  just wanted to update you guys of the amazing couple of weeks i've had in recovering from the cult.. i was attending the meetings still just so i could see my daughter in the kingdom hall and have her sit we me half the time.

  i had no intention of ever becoming a jw again but was hoping to be re-instated and just not turn up ever again so i could at least see my family.

  but then an elder said something to me that changed all that.

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  PE... love equals abuse in this religion. Your experience shows that. As for 'being part of a "loving" (aka abusive) family' there is nothing... ABSOLUTELY NOTHING... that Botchtower can do to change the fact that you are your daughter's Father. I do hope you can still be a part of her life. Show her unconditional love. She will soon see the difference between them and you.
  

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  Why the story of Noah's ark is scientifically impossible: Minimum Viable Population

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  9 years ago

  i didn't know this but there is a way to calculate the minimum population required for a certain species to survive over the next 100 to 1000 years.

  this is called the "minimum viable population".. genesis states that 2 (or 7) of each "kind" went into the ark.

  supposing that each "kind" means each "species", and they all could fit in the ark, and they came out safely, most of the species would have died, because it is impossible to survive, long-term, with a starting population of 2.this is interesting:"an mvp of 500 to 1,000 has often been given as an average for terrestrial vertebrates when inbreeding or genetic variability is ignored.

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  For certain species, they'd have had to have setup reproductive, closed system environments on the arc as these don't live very long lives. For example, a fruit fly only lives for 40 to 50 days. So the original pair would not have made it through the journey.

  Edited to add: And they could easily be consumed by many other predatory species.
  

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  Woman's Purpose

  by StopTheTears in

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  9 years ago

  i'm probably going to say some things here that will disappoint many.

  there are some that may look back over the years and say "man i really blew it" i'm not writing the following to scold for failures, but rather to help those who are young enough to put into practice what god wills for their life, and also to those of us who are in our middle years that still have time to change some things, in order to please god and find a peace that only being in his will can bring.

  first let me say that god didn't create man for you.

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  StopTheTears, are you writing for Botchtower now?
  

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  Signs That Armageddon is "Any Day Now"

  by Nevuela in

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  9 years ago

  my "anointed" roommate told me a good one today.

  as we were discussing psychotropic medications, she brought up a friend of hers who was recently forced off of "benzodiazepine" (there is no one drug by this name; rather, it is a specific classification of drug).

  she claimed that many people are being forced off of the medication(s) due to "concerns over side effects," and that her friend is suffering from withdrawal on top of whatever symptoms the drug was previously helping to control (she didn't elaborate and i didn't feel comfortable asking, sorry).. my roommate then went on record to say (i'm paraphrasing here) "this is why armageddon has to happen very soon, because satan is using this system to make all these people suffer psychologically to drive them into the streets and go crazy.

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  Remember Harold Camping? End times nut bags abound. And they never learn.
  

  I am more than half a century old now. Fifty plus years is not soon. Neither is 100+ years, nor is 2000+ years. Anyone who has been a JW for a number of years has got to be wondering... Where the hell is Armageddon?!
  

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  Signs That Armageddon is "Any Day Now"

  by Nevuela in

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  9 years ago

  my "anointed" roommate told me a good one today.

  as we were discussing psychotropic medications, she brought up a friend of hers who was recently forced off of "benzodiazepine" (there is no one drug by this name; rather, it is a specific classification of drug).

  she claimed that many people are being forced off of the medication(s) due to "concerns over side effects," and that her friend is suffering from withdrawal on top of whatever symptoms the drug was previously helping to control (she didn't elaborate and i didn't feel comfortable asking, sorry).. my roommate then went on record to say (i'm paraphrasing here) "this is why armageddon has to happen very soon, because satan is using this system to make all these people suffer psychologically to drive them into the streets and go crazy.

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  The last time anyone stated the reason for Armageddon's 'imminence' was back in 2010. The very bad economy was the reason. Does 6 years count as a definition of 'imminent'?
  

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  Should JWs be watching the the Olympics?

  by darkspilver in

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  9 years ago

  from the awake 8 november 1994, page 26. the olympic religious mix.

  the olympic games are rooted in greek religion.

  they were born as a religious festival to honor zeus, supreme among the greek gods.

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  Heaven 9 years ago

  No. There are too many tight fitting outfits in the Olympics.... w-a-a-a-a-y too many.
  

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  I believe in Evolution and that God created life

  by Crabby in

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  9 years ago

  anyone else also hold this view or understand it at least, or do you feel the need to argue that both can in no way coexist?.

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  LOL @ LUHE!
  

  Crabby said: Heaven, how is it possible for you to smell a flower and have that smell stored in your mind, then somehow pass that smell on to your child.

  Crabby, this is not an answer to my question.
  

  Now to answer your question. Simply put I have a nose, a mouth, a central nervous system, and a brain as does a child.

  Molecules released by various items enter through the nose as well as the mouth to the back of the throat, landing on tissue covered in mucus where millions of olfactory receptors or neurons bind with these specific odour molecules. Once this binding occurs, the receptors send their electrical impulses to a certain microregion, also known as the glomerulus (of which there are some 2,000 in the olfactory bulb), which then passes the electrical impulses along to other parts of the brain. The “odourant patterns” that are released from the glomerulus are interpreted in the brain as smell. This discovery is accredited to Richard Axel and Linda Buck, who won the 2004 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for their work.

  Knowledge passed on to a child about a smell is done when a child smells something and asks the question "What is that smell?" with the result of someone answering their question. Google or a book may also provide the answer.
  

  
  

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  I believe in Evolution and that God created life

  by Crabby in

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  9 years ago

  anyone else also hold this view or understand it at least, or do you feel the need to argue that both can in no way coexist?.

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  Heaven 9 years ago

  How is it possible for a spirit being to have any sort of ability for complex thought processes without a brain or gender without a physical body with specific glands, hormones, and organs to define this?
  

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