Haven't read the wt yet, is it a rule or suggestion? No doubt now they attendants and elders and all involved will be on a watch out to see who breaks their ridiculous "guidance"? What, are we teenagers to be overly aroused at holding hands during prayers? What about a couple during their wedding, will they have to stand apart so it's clear to all they are not holding hands? Or worse yet a funeral during prayer will couples including those who may have lost a loved one not hold each other? Nit picking on EVERY aspect of an individuals life! Way to go Borg, keep showing just how juvenile you are in your thinking. Wife has vowed she's going to do it more "visibly" so there's a plus for me! ;D
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new WT rule: no holding hands durning public prayer!
by leftchica inso i just caught a glimpse of this new wt magazine(study edition) of course.. from dec 28th titled.
"what do your prayers say about you".
so now they are focosing on every aspect of our lifes even our actions during prayer.
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Question for those still attending...is anyone talking?
by ToesUp inwe haven't been to a meeting or jw event in several years.
we have been following the rc closely.
it is fascinating!
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A congregation we share the hall with actually had an elder comment during the meetings that the brothers should not tune into news or net cover on Jw's as it just negative publicity. Which means he's aware of it and hope his comments backfire on him and get the curios searching. This especially since we have'nt had any news coverage here about it. -
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... and keep fighting
by nevaagain inlast week we had the cos visit and i wanted to share my experiences with you.
some background info on me, i knowttatt and am fully awake, my wife also knows my doubts and read a few things on the internet but she is still 100% commited to the truth, saying everything on the apostate sites are lies.
so right now i am in just to keep the status quo.
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by username injust before the morning adjournment in the australian proceedings the judge played an absolute blinder.. he asked the elder as in deuteronomy would the jehovah's witnesses stone a woman for committing adultery?!
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Let me guess, "I don't understand your question..."
Lets come up with some jw answers... It's not that hard.
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Soooo, when I tell you I feel it's a cult
by cognac inwhy would you proceed to invite me to their meetings?
wtf?
how much clearer can i make my stance????
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dubstepped. pass over that club, will you? Took them close to seven months to announce my resignation as an elder, couldn't fathom why I would choose to. "look over imperfections, wait on Jehovah." even after I complaind on the lack of love and hypocrisy amongs the elders. Spineless medlers!
When the brothers now ask "didnt see you on thursday? " I said yeah cause I wasn't there, can't see what's not there! " surprised looks and I laugh. Some others said they didnt see me on sunday and I said I was on my way but heard happy singing in a close by church so I was torn. "huh! Oh you're so funny!"
And so they have begun to keep their distance.
Cognac, they just don't get it.
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The pedophile is in better position than the apostate
by opusdei1972 ini know that in english there are better pages exposing the organization, but here i updated the page (in spanish) with an article untitled "la organizacion jehovista oculta el abuso sexual" (the jehovist organization hides sexual abuse) based on the last news on "child abuse" in australia, and quoting watchtower's articles in which you can note how in this organization, the penitent pedophiles are in better position than the "apostates" who denounce the organization's absurdities .. http://jehovismo.com/.
for instance, i quoted the watchtower 1997 jan 1 p.29, where it is said that it is permitted for the penitent pedophile to preach door to door:.
if he seems to be repentant, he will be encouraged to make spiritual progress, share in the field service, even have parts in the theocratic ministry school (the watchtower, january 1, 1997).
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Twisted! Same could be said if you were caught searching the net for porn, which would be a little slap on the hand compared to if you were caught visiting "apostate" sites. Doesn't paedophilia go against the teachings of what is truth not only by the wt but also human conscience too? No. Independent thinking does the Borg more harm as it frees the mind from their control thus "hindering their work!" -
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Don't believe what you read in the newspapers
by 1Averagejoe infoolish is the man who neverreads a newspaper; even morefoolish is the man who believeswhat he reads just becauseit is in the newspaper .august von schlozer,german historianand publicist (1735-1809).
i came across this articke in the october 15th wt.
page 30.
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No problem! And I am a moron for joining this cult in the first place. -
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Don't believe what you read in the newspapers
by 1Averagejoe infoolish is the man who neverreads a newspaper; even morefoolish is the man who believeswhat he reads just becauseit is in the newspaper .august von schlozer,german historianand publicist (1735-1809).
i came across this articke in the october 15th wt.
page 30.
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Secretslaveclass. My apologies I didn't paste the wt comments clearly distinct from my comments. Please refer to the wt I quoted from to see where it ends. But am glad you too agree that the wt tries to dissuade it's followers to avoid them getting information as in the cases of child abuse which are true and alarming. Thanks too for your added information. They also are instilling into the minds of their followers quilt when they either come across such news and perhaps report those who spread such news. Training the people to towards "willful" ignorance when it comes to the reality of the Borg's crimes and failings thus being exposed.
“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.”
― Søren KierkegaardAll in the name of protecting the wt society the little ones would suffer and if such exposure would not take place then there would be no change in their mentality to protect the "little lambs." The mentality is screwed up right down to the lord elders who can't be criticised for even small things. Just for your information due to several reasons in my experience and research I boiled with hate at all the lies and have resigned as an elder and will not support any of the activities they had imposed upon me. You are welcomed to wish me luck and give advice on my fade. ;)
“Sometimes we find ourselves walking through life blindfolded, and we try to deny that we're the ones who securely tied the knot.”
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Don't believe what you read in the newspapers
by 1Averagejoe infoolish is the man who neverreads a newspaper; even morefoolish is the man who believeswhat he reads just becauseit is in the newspaper .august von schlozer,german historianand publicist (1735-1809).
i came across this articke in the october 15th wt.
page 30.
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Lol. In creol Kak is "kaka, " but in swahili the word "kaka" means brother. Just saying. -
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Don't believe what you read in the newspapers
by 1Averagejoe infoolish is the man who neverreads a newspaper; even morefoolish is the man who believeswhat he reads just becauseit is in the newspaper .august von schlozer,german historianand publicist (1735-1809).
i came across this articke in the october 15th wt.
page 30.
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“Foolish is the man who neverreads a newspaper; even morefoolish is the man who believeswhat he reads just becauseit is in the newspaper .”—August von Schlözer,German historianand publicist (1735-1809). I came across this articke in the October 15th wt. Page 30. "The naive person believes every word. " The objective of the article summary is in these paragraphs;" And what should you do if you find slanderousnews abouts Jehovah's organisation on the Internet? Such material should be firmly rejected.Some feel that they must bring it to the attention of others to get their opinion ,but all that does is propagate the malicious information. If we feel troubled about something we see on the Internet, we should ask Jehovah for wisdom andspeak to mature brothers about it. (Jas. 1:5, 6;Jude 22, 23) Jesus, who was the object of false accusations, warned his followers that enemies would persecute them and "lyingly say every sort of wicked thing against [them].” (Matt. 5:11; 11:19; John 10:19-21) We need to use “thinking ability”and “discernment” to identify “the man speaking perverse things” and those “whose entire course is devious.”—Prov. 2:10-16.RESPECT THE RIGHT OF OTHERSWe also have to be careful about news or expe-riences of a spiritual nature that we receive sec-ond hand.Even if a report is true, it does not nec-essarily mean that it should be spread.There maybe times when it would be neither right nor lov-ing to distribute true accounts to others. (Matt.7:12) For example, it is neither loving nor up-buildingto spread gossip, even though the infor-mation may be true. (2 Thess. 3:11; 1 Tim. 5:13)Some news may be of a confidential nature, andwe should respect the right of others to di-vulge the information at the proper time throughthe appropriate channels. Spreading informationahead of time can do much harm."
I wonder what the jw field activity will be like in Australia this month after their newspapers highlight the child abuse issue. It would be interesting to have someone there give us a feedback on reactions of the publishers, studies, and attendance at meetings after all this exposure. What are the discussions at their field service meetings in preparing the flock with what to say in defending their faith. Will they have local needs parts to handle this issue in the coming months?