Before going to bed I thought I would ask this question.
Mary Roberson said, America is using the war on terror as an excuse to trample on other nations that are troublesome to us. How many agree with her?
Peace James
before going to bed i thought i would ask this question.
mary roberson said, america is using the war on terror as an excuse to trample on other nations that are troublesome to us.
how many agree with her?.
Before going to bed I thought I would ask this question.
Mary Roberson said, America is using the war on terror as an excuse to trample on other nations that are troublesome to us. How many agree with her?
Peace James
"people have absolutely every right to go to the authorities," said j.r. brown, director of public information.
"we are sorry about people feeling overlooked and certainly for the victims.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/post.asp?id=19&method=post&site=3.
then why do the keep a database of over 20,000 names of perps? You don't enter all of that data into a database to overlook it. Swan
I agree Grits, this is a good question and point. Someone take a wild guess on it. It's sticking in my mind now. Why are they loging those names? what do they plan to do with them? One thing for sure is: They have a lot of law suits to pay off, imagine all the people who have to go for professional help. The WTBS is going to have to pay for it all.
Sorry for going off the topic.
Peace James.
"people have absolutely every right to go to the authorities," said j.r. brown, director of public information.
"we are sorry about people feeling overlooked and certainly for the victims.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/post.asp?id=19&method=post&site=3.
Hey Grits
It would be GREAT! for the GB members to give an apology (like the one you describe). But if the GB membes are anything like what I have read here, the statement above is the cloesest an apology the survivors will receive from them. I am going to watch and see if any of them actually come out and face the survivors.
Earlier I called them "victims" but after all they have gone through with the WTBS or the Elders in their local KH's and having the courage to leave I see them as being survivors.
Peace James.
"people have absolutely every right to go to the authorities," said j.r. brown, director of public information.
"we are sorry about people feeling overlooked and certainly for the victims.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/post.asp?id=19&method=post&site=3.
This is what everyone wants right? He at least gave that. Now let's see if he gives it during the march. An apology face to face with the victims would be very nice.
Peace James.
many of us here, are not sure what the future holds, if there is a god, and if so what is his purpose.
i too fall into that category, but i think im better off now because when i was a dub, i always wondered if i was doing enough to get into the new world.
i worried about if my children would make it and if i was taking the lead for my wife and the cong.
Hi WildTurkey,
I don' t know your story with the Jehovah's Witness but have you recently been df? or did you leave on your own?. You seem hurt and happy at the same time I was just wondering.
Peace James
just got this review in for my book father's touch.
!father's touch.
by donald d'haene ***** (five stars) "the game" is over.. reviewer: craig chalquist from escondido, ca usa.
Hey Morrisamb
An e xcellent review
Congratulations man!!
God knows you deserve a pat on the back
Peace James
it was satan that was cursed, not the snake!
if it was satan then that the "curse" of genesis 3:14 applied to rather than the serpent, then how is it that satan has had to live his life since that day as if having to go upon his belly and eat dust?
the answer is arrived at by first considering the lowly state of this somewhat pitiful creature called the "serpent".
Oh i see where you are coming from now thatsucks. No I didn't mean it was correct I said, I have no way of disputing his interpretation for all I know it could be correct. But others can come along and use those same scriptures add a different interpretation and make it sound reasonable too. Unlike many of you I didn't pay attention at the meetings, or do the work. My goal was to make as much trouble as I could so I could be kicked out. I later got my way. Therefore I do not know the bible in the way all of you do I will admit someone saying they had an answer to a question like that did grab my attention.
Now I am waiting to see if anyone has a good answer for the question in the thread WTLies started. Another interesting one.
This is a great place to learn.
Thanks for clearing up the misunderstanding .
Peace James.
Edited by - monster on 29 August 2002 10:38:55
it was satan that was cursed, not the snake!
if it was satan then that the "curse" of genesis 3:14 applied to rather than the serpent, then how is it that satan has had to live his life since that day as if having to go upon his belly and eat dust?
the answer is arrived at by first considering the lowly state of this somewhat pitiful creature called the "serpent".
Don't give me the W.T. reasoning on this either about how Jehovah uses his foreknowledge selectively and chose not to know the final outcome. That is pure speculation and does not jive with Gods supposed abilities as the bible states. gumby
Now that's a good question. I would like you (Yadirf) to show me that god choses not to know what will happen before it does in the Bible.
Thatsucks, I have no idea what you meant ..If you were implying that I am in a cult sorry I don't follow any religion or person.
first there was kathy & monster.
at least i'm pretty sure they were the first.. i wuz three.. and so were we.. .
we'd race .
first there was Kathy & Monsterat least i'm pretty sure they were the first.
i wuz three.
and so were we.
we'd race
to the washroom
and monster would alwayz win
but i'd tell him off
and make him let Kathy go first.oh the memories.
LOL...Crazy! Crazy! Crazy!........I loved it..thanks for the laugh.
it was satan that was cursed, not the snake!
if it was satan then that the "curse" of genesis 3:14 applied to rather than the serpent, then how is it that satan has had to live his life since that day as if having to go upon his belly and eat dust?
the answer is arrived at by first considering the lowly state of this somewhat pitiful creature called the "serpent".
Some even believe that on the basis of the language of Ezekiel 28:11-19 Satan had been privileged with having oversight over the first man and woman, he being the covering or protecting Cherub. I am of this persuasion myself.
I just finished reading that scripture. The part that gets me is all this symbolic language in the Bible. First it says ..The king of Trye ..Then it goes on to say "you were in Eden the garden of God"....Last the scriptures talk about a .......guardian Cherub..........Why not just be plain and say Satan?
And so we see that prior to Satan's deviation from righteousness he enjoyed a high degree of honor, as a person who practiced righteousness. But with that rebellion he lost ALL the honor that had previously been associated with his name, whatever that name might have been. So you see, Satan experienced a FALL in association with that incident in the Garden of Eden. He went from being a most honorable person among God's heavenly angels (likely even being of the high order of Cherubs) to a person who hit rock bottom. God stripped him of all the privileges and honor that he had enjoyed up to that point in his already lengthy life. Compared to his status prior to this deed Satan had now become "cursed" - - yes, status-wise, he had become just as LOW as a literal serpent's belly is to the ground. So, from the day he forfeited the prestige he once had amidst God's creation, Satan has had to live a life of dishonor, not having his Creator's respect -- which is like having to slither upon his belly against the lowly dust of the ground as one of the lowliest creatures in existence -- not unlike the little creature that had no legs that he so unfairly took advantage of.
Friday
Since you and everyone else here knows your bibles more than I will ever know mine I will take your word that, that's the correct answer. I have no way to dispute your interpretation of it, for all I know you could be correct.
Well thanks for the answer you had my goat there for a while..
I for get the person who first said, "Did the Devil lie" but that was good question you asked, ask another good question on the bible maybe I'll learn more :)
Peace James
Edited by - Monster on 29 August 2002 7:45:2