No I wasn't in Bethel. I think it was mentioned here many years ago and I thought it was interesting because such a thing is quite rare. Not many people leave because of doctrinal reasons and its even more rare that more than one individual leaves. I suppose the leading brothers at Bethel were terrified that many would join them? Do you know what happened to them afterwards? Did they join some other religion? I remember they even had their own blog online about some biblical topics.
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I’m a current elder ex bethel in London
by Mikejw ini was in bethel for years early 2000s and was heavily involved with brd from start to finish .
im current elder in one of the congregations in london.
what i’ve noticed is huge changes since covid .
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I’m a current elder ex bethel in London
by Mikejw ini was in bethel for years early 2000s and was heavily involved with brd from start to finish .
im current elder in one of the congregations in london.
what i’ve noticed is huge changes since covid .
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Hi Mike
Were you still there in Bethel around 2009 when some elders were disfellowshiped for "apostasy"? I remember there were maybe 4 of them and the issues were similar than in 1980 in Brooklyn, that everyone should partake etc.
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Randall Watters our old friend
by new boy indoes anyone here know his where about or have any updates on him?
he hasn't been active his face book in over a year.
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Here is something I had not seen before: notes by Ed Dunlap. I believe he recorded some tapes (one of them can be found on youtube where he tells his story) but I have never found the other ones. These texts seem to be from those tapes. Worth checking out if someone is interested in Ed's doctrinal ideas.
https://web.archive.org/web/20050325153545/http://www.freeminds.org/bethel/ed.pdf
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Randall Watters our old friend
by new boy indoes anyone here know his where about or have any updates on him?
he hasn't been active his face book in over a year.
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First go here: https://archive.org/web/
Then search for "www.freeminds.org"
Then pick a year, for example 2015 and click that and then choose a date from the calendar that has a blue background, like 5 February. When you put the cursor on that, a little box pops up. It says "1 snapshot", click the number below that. And the website opens.
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Randall Watters our old friend
by new boy indoes anyone here know his where about or have any updates on him?
he hasn't been active his face book in over a year.
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Thanks Snakes. Wow, looks like almost the whole site can be found that way, I was even able to download some audio files there.
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Randall Watters our old friend
by new boy indoes anyone here know his where about or have any updates on him?
he hasn't been active his face book in over a year.
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So in that podcast 2 years ago he said that his computers were stolen from him and with it all the stuff that he had on his website. :(
And here he wrote 5 months ago, still hasn't gotten any of it back:
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Randall Watters our old friend
by new boy indoes anyone here know his where about or have any updates on him?
he hasn't been active his face book in over a year.
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I was going to ask about this just a few days ago.. I hope he is still around but he did look quite ill in some recent videos that I found.
It's such a shame his website freeminds is not online anymore, there was some unique material from Bethel from 1970s that you can't find anywhere else.
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The Genesis 3:15 woman.
by Fisherman ingenesis 3:15 says that the woman’s seed would be in enmity with the serpent’s seed.
although the bible reveals that the woman’s seed is jesus and christians that go to heaven with christ, it does not identify the woman directly.
we at jw believe that the woman is symbolic.
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What if the woman is simply Eve?
"All in all, the term “the woman” is used nine times in this chapter. There can be no doubt from the context that its use from verses 1 to 14 and then again in verse 16 applies to Eve. Does it seem reasonable then that God would inexplicably change its use in verse 15 to refer to some hitherto undisclosed metaphorical ‘woman’? Luther, the Pope, the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses, and others, would have us believe so, since there is no other way for them to weave their personal interpretation into the narrative. Are any of them right to expect this of us?"
Quoted from this article: https://beroeans.net/2016/08/18/salvation-part-3-the-seed/
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Marc O'Donell's statement: Lloyd and the conflict of Interest
by Diogenesister inas expected from a man who prioritizes the most vulnerable members of our community, marc has made a sober statement that explains why there's a deep conflict of interest between lloyds recent behaviour and the work they do at jw watch.
you can read it here:.
public statement of mark o’donnell.
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Germany is not the only country in Europe where the age of consent is so low, there are about 15 more. I have never understood this.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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^ I believe there were two 14-year-old girls in Marko's story and only one of them was a witness.