Ewart Chitty had "homosexual tendencies" and he was forced to resign. Ray Franz writes about him briefly in his first book. He continued as a Bethelite until he died.
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Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body
by WingCommander inthis has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.
this is not a joke.
anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!
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Nostromo
Smiddy3, that video is a secretly recorded judicial committee meeting and yeah, it's pretty annoying to listen to.
But at 1:21:47 there is an interesting detail. One the elders in the "committee" had served in the headquarters (must be quite recently because he clearly isn't that old) and he told how he knew all the GB members and had talked with them about many things.
He had also asked them about the "new light" and how that process works. According to him this is what happens if some GB member suggests that some biblical understanding should be changed:
"Even if one member votes against it, they don't make the announcement, they table it, they wait. Sometimes a new understanding will be on the table for months or years until the entire GB sees and agrees as a body that this is obvious at this point, this is what Jehovah is directing."
So if this is true, we can forget about the old 2/3 majority Ray Franz talks about in his book. Apparently that system has been rejected at some point and now just 1 member can block a change if he doesn't agree with it..
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Nostromo
Here it is, go to 1:21:47
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Nostromo
I believe they have ditched the 2/3 rule a long time ago and nowadays the decisions have to be unanimous. I don't remember which video it was but some elder who had been at Bethel had talked with a GB member and got the impression that all the members have to agree. I will try if I can find that video.
This info about 2/3 majority is based of Ray Franz's book. He left in 1980 and many things have changed since then.
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^ That's true, apparently at least of two current helpers (Gillies and Schafer) are anointed and there could be more. -
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Reformists? Never. Why would the current GB appoint someone who would cause them problems? The current 8 must have made 100% sure that these two think exactly like the current GB before appointing them. -
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Seems to be a census on vaccine status
by Indoubtbigtime inthe upcoming km school for all elders and servants is going to be in person only with no provision for video conferencing.. only fully vaccinated may attend.
meaning if you missed your last booster you are no longer fully vaccinated.. every coordinator of body of elders has to ask every single ms and elder if they have kept up with all their boosters and are fully vaccinated or they can’t attend.. this seems to be a census the gb want to know how many are keeping up with booster shots.
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Nostromo
I guess he means Quercetin by that. But zinc and high blood level of vitamin D are also necessary.
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I’m a current elder ex bethel in London
by Mikejw ini was in bethel for years early 2000s and was heavily involved with brd from start to finish .
im current elder in one of the congregations in london.
what i’ve noticed is huge changes since covid .
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No I wasn't in Bethel. I think it was mentioned here many years ago and I thought it was interesting because such a thing is quite rare. Not many people leave because of doctrinal reasons and its even more rare that more than one individual leaves. I suppose the leading brothers at Bethel were terrified that many would join them? Do you know what happened to them afterwards? Did they join some other religion? I remember they even had their own blog online about some biblical topics.
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I’m a current elder ex bethel in London
by Mikejw ini was in bethel for years early 2000s and was heavily involved with brd from start to finish .
im current elder in one of the congregations in london.
what i’ve noticed is huge changes since covid .
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Nostromo
Hi Mike
Were you still there in Bethel around 2009 when some elders were disfellowshiped for "apostasy"? I remember there were maybe 4 of them and the issues were similar than in 1980 in Brooklyn, that everyone should partake etc.
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Randall Watters our old friend
by new boy indoes anyone here know his where about or have any updates on him?
he hasn't been active his face book in over a year.
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Here is something I had not seen before: notes by Ed Dunlap. I believe he recorded some tapes (one of them can be found on youtube where he tells his story) but I have never found the other ones. These texts seem to be from those tapes. Worth checking out if someone is interested in Ed's doctrinal ideas.
https://web.archive.org/web/20050325153545/http://www.freeminds.org/bethel/ed.pdf