They put themselves in the "seat of Moses." If you even hint at disagreeing with them they throw in the Korah threat. This really identifies them in "the seat of Moses." Moses always tested God's decisions, remember the staff that bloomed? Then when it came time to deal with Korah and his cronies, it wasn't in some little tent way out on the edge of the encampment, it was out in the open in front of all the people. Moses did not call down the punishment on Korah, he let God do it all. This is what happens when they get too full of their own self importance.
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I found this paragraph in the Watchtower study to be so ridiculous and offensive......
by Pyramid Scheme inusually i read through the study article for the week to see if there are good points of discussion with my family.. when i read this paragraph, i nearly fell off my chair.
this is complete and utter garbage.
i have had discussions with my wife and other family members who also agreed it was complete rubbish.
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You are all invited to the Memorial Of Jesus Death this March 26th 2013/Invitation is included, just open.
by suavojr ingreetings to all jwn members and lurkers,.
i would like to extend all a warm-hearted invitation for our upcoming memorial this march 26th 2013, we will be having the lord's supper at sundown in a jehovah's witness kingdom hall near you.as you can see in this invitation, jesus died for all and that includes abraham, tyndale, pastor russell and many others.
maybe you can identify the remaining key people on the top left side of jesus.we will have a wonderful talk about how jesus gave his life for all humankind thus opening the doors for everlasting life.you can all go to our official website www.jw.org and find the nearest kh where you live, under the tab about us and then go to meetings.you and your family are all invited and it is free.
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Blueeyes54
Emmmm I know that Nisan 14 is the first full moon after the spring equinox, which is March 20 th my sons BD. That has always been the norm for memorial night. So.... That being said, according to calendardaze.com/full_moon_schedule, it is on March 27 not March 26. They got it wrong one other year. The moon wasn't completely full when they came out of the KH and looked up.
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Some Poll Questions to Answer
by jwfacts ini have updated a site of mine, jwfacts.mobi, which has a few articles from jwfacts.com, but better designed for smart phones.
on it i am going to include a few polls, and need people to answer them so that there are some intial numbers for the graphs.. please go to jwfacts.mobi/pollsarchive and answer any that are relevant.
it should only take a minute.
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Blueeyes54
I would like to see what specific doctrinal points were at dispute. It determines if there is a common thread. I know we are in the time of scriptural fullfillment, and the elders are not catching it. They will have all of us on contiual watch. The watch comes to an end some time.
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Memorial Invitation official first day today
by OneDayillBeFree inwell it's that time of year again and the invitations to another pointless memorial aka reject jesus party is now in full swing.
even though it's only the first day i'm already more than sick of it!
this is the first year i am fully mentally awake for the memorial season, and honestly i'm so sick of it all!
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Blueeyes54
According to: http://calendardaze.com/full_moon_schedule.htm the first full moon after the spring equinox is April 6. Memorial is always the first full moon after March 20th. That would make it April 6 not the 5th. They made the same mistake last year. I received one invitation last year. On the invitation Jesus was holding out his left hand, not his right. So what? You are a goat until you go to memorial and get moved to the other side? The sheep are on the right and the goats are on the left. Does it matter? Yeah life matters.
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IT'S OFFICIAL - New Elder's Manual by end of 2010
by sir82 inper a "top secret, confidential, burn this after you read it" letter to all boes, dated march 2, 2010, but not read in our congregation until this past week:.
new "kingdom ministry" school for all elders and ministerial servants, to be held (in the us anyway) between november 2010 and january 2011.. 6 hours of jaw dropping tedium instruction for ms, 9 for elders.
ms session to be held on a sunday, elders on friday and saturday.. the "super secret surprise", for elders only: a new textbook will be released to be studied at this "school".
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Blueeyes54
Bet they won't treat the anointed any better than they ever have.
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Memorial: Attendance Down, But Partakers Up!
by BabaYaga inthis is the impression i am getting from various threads.
of course, we won't "know" until they release the figures... oh, what am i talking about.
we won't know then, either, because we know that they discount anyone who partakes that they don't recognize or deem "worthy".
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Blueeyes54
Two my son and I. I partake privately now. No judgemental sneers.
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Pedophiles in your congregation??
by ziddina ini'm listening to the "six screens of the watchtower" broadcast from october 25, 2008 [yeah, i know, i'm waaay behind...], discussing pedophilia... that broadcast caused me to look up the current status of 'pedophilia notification' in the u.s.a..... rebel8 posted a link sometime back that gave locations of pedophiles in one's (u.s.a.) neighborhood... that portion of the link is, unfortunately, not working right now.... i decided to check out my [old] site, http://www.nsopw.gov/core/offendersearchcriteria.aspx to see if it still functioned the same way.... again, unfortunately, that site is also no longer giving out maps of one's area.... but, as pointed out in rebel8's posted link, pedophiles tend to move around.
this was also mentioned in the six screens broadcast by a lady named "lilly".... the new versions of both sites simply allow one to input the name of someone suspected to be a pedophile... not as effective, imo, but perhaps the cost of updating the maps due to pedophiles' high mobility became prohibitive.. so, here's my suggestion... using the 'name' search function, check out every name in .
your congregation, starting with the elders!!!.
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Blueeyes54
I wanted to puke when I scouted some of my old congreagation members Facebook sites and discovered that two pediphiles are currently conversing with elders, their wives and other congregation members. These men were disfellowshipped for raping young brothers. Now they are reinstated and able to converse freely with congreagtion members. It's as if all the discovery, elder meetings, and robbing of innocence never happened. It isn't about love and saving their souls, it's about the rest of the congregation being safe.
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my letter to the elders and governing body
by leftchica in<!-- @page { margin: 0.79in } p { margin-bottom: 0.08in } --> .
to the elders of the maitland congregation and governing body of the watchtower tract.
and bible society,.
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Blueeyes54
The Governing Body has heard it all before. You wrote it well. I wrote them the same and more. Jehovah says if you close your ear to the plaintive cries of the little ones He will close His ears to you. Save your ink. Jesus knows and he will take action. He starts with his house first. They do not know they have already been inspected and did not pass. The GB has consistantly refused to listen and support the anointed. They do not want to hear about the joy of a heavenly hope. They grumble and shed doubt toward those who partake at the annual memorial. The first thing I was told by my then congregation presiding oversee after I partook of the bread and wine in 1984 was, " Do not talk about this to anyone. This is a matter between you and Jehovah only." I told him that it caused me joy and in no way did I intend to hide my light under a baske. In the following years, the elders did everything they could to discourage me from partaking from year to year. It is a long a arduos account of untold stress on my family. I will not give up my crown for them. I will not deny Jesus Christ, and I will not stop sharing my joy. Joy is one of the nine fruitages of the Holy Spirit. It is my God given right. Keep your chin up, your deliverence is near. Rest assured Jehovah does hear your plaintive cry.
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response from Ray Franz on generation change
by isaacaustin inthanks for your letter and the thoughts contained.
others had commented on the latest shift of the interpretation of this generation.
as you recognize this allows for an unending extension of time and likely stems from an awareness of the approach of the year 2014 marking 100 years since the date of 1914.. .
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Blueeyes54
So nice to know you are still alive and kicking. Watchtower is trying to regain balance. They apparently do not recognize when they lost it. Revelation 7:3 let's Bible readers know when the end comes. Since the GB doesn't want to recognize the anointed outside their exclusive circle, they will not be blessed with knowing when this occurs. Jehovah will not bless those who lie under His name. He will let them suffer humiliation just like he did the Isrealites. He let the nations jeer at them until they begged Him to make it stop. Then He killed those who jeered at the Isrealites. He will deal with His people the way He sees fit. What I feel is unfortunate, is the lies they handed down all too willingly about you. I starting partaking back in 1984,several others did also. We were told that if we were genuine it was only because there had been the removal of Ray Franz and all his cohorts. It was because a replacement took place. I see you haven't lost it after all. I cry that you still sing the new song. Only the anointed know the new song. I don't think the people on this site know what a privelege it is to have you respond to their questions. Are you ready to come out of the wilderness yet? Jesus spent time there. David spent time there. Eziekiel spent time there. The anointed spend time there. Jehovah promised that he would make it good. Revelation 12:13,14. We will see His face someday. Revelation 22:3,4. He will gather His true anointed despite mens attempts to prefent it. Hold your chin up it's on its way Brother Franz.
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New 'Generation' light? Its just the "Governing body being the Governing Body"
by dissed inwe used to have a nutcase of a friend in the jw's who was always saying 'off the wall' things.
he was exasgerating interpretations, making idle threats that he would 'bump off' a jw if they do him wrong.
nobody took him seriously, because he said these wacko things all the time and never did them.
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Blueeyes54
They put out an AWAKE several years ago referring to the custom of "saving face". They need to pull it out of their library and read it again. They do not listen to the rest of the anointed world wide. We tried to warn them and they dismissed us as rebellious. Even though they say that the "faithful and discreet salve" is all of the anointed living on earth, they remain exclusive and they say they are the voice of the anointed. In their efforts to appear united they are very divided right now. Because of this broadening chasim, a west coast/east coast division has been widening. They were warned about this problem also and didn't listen. The problem with pride and saving face comes when they are not humble enough to listen to the little guy. Jesus set the example when he washed the feet of the apostles. When was the last time an elder paid you a shepherding call and offered to wash your feet? You laugh? Well. . .