Posts by HintOfLime

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Is the GB Bloodguilty?

by LostGeneration in

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no not about the blood issue, though i would say yes to that.. what i'm talking about is in regard to the preaching work.

i recently commented on a thread that i thought field service was an inconvenient necessity when you are a witness.

many active ones probably feel the same way today, as it is their ticket to paradise earth.

According to the bible, if a person 'sumbles' another out of the 'faith' - then I'm pretty sure that can make you bloodguilty (that scripture alone is the basis of dozens of little nonsense 'rules', such as beards and tatoos and whatnot.)

So, based on that.. and the GB's false prophecy regarding 1914, 1925, 1975.., and the multitude that have been stumbled over those or the 'generation' change, blood change, etc....

PRETTY DAMN GUILTY.

- Lime

PS: But don't point that completely obvious bit out to my dad or he'll FLIP OUT at your "apostate propoganda" and start crying (WTF?).

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How's your decade been?

by jookbeard in

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for me positives;.

getting married again.

having a lovely baby daughter.

HintOfLime

@Leolaia

I just call it the 00's (or if aloud, I'll say the "2000's"). It seems to be what the radios are doing as well.

At least you only have to worry about it for a few more days, then it'll be the 10's.

- Lime

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How's your decade been?

by jookbeard in

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for me positives;.

getting married again.

having a lovely baby daughter.

HintOfLime

Assuming "that which doesn't kill you makes you stronger...." it's been a good very good decade for me. I learned a lot of hard lessons at the cost of nearly everyone I love - but somehow I do feel stronger for it.

Sometimes you need a good fight.

- Lime

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Is the Bible Really Scientifically Accurate?

by FreeAtLast1914 in

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the society (and others) love to quote job 26:7 where it says that "[god] suspends the earth over nothing" and isaiah 40:22, where it speaks of "the circle of the earth".

they use these scriptures to boast about the incredible scientific accuracy of the bible, proving god had a direct hand in everything written in it.. the trouble is that elsewhere in the scriptures, opposing views are put forth explaining then-unexplainable physics and geographical notions.

one is job 26:11: "the pillars of heaven tremble.

HintOfLime

I take the Horus stuff with a grain of salt - you usually find it on youtube videos posted by 'some guy' with no references and the claims just seem too incredible. I'm sure there are a few loose corelations to be found (like between anything) - maybe there was some influence from the story transferred to the biblical account.. maybe not. Probably not a good example.

At any rate, the story of a 'god' or 'chosen one' being born amoung men to save them is by no means an original plot amoung holy writings.

- Lime

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Photography

by Frenchy in

okay, so far no one has posted anything about photography on this forum.

so what do you guys and gals think about digital vs 35mm?.

i use to do a little shutter bugging myself.

HintOfLime

Lol, I love photography, especially outdoor macro stuff and indoor 'studio' stuff. My ex liked to do nude/semi-nude shots, and then a few times had one of her girlfriends over for some lingerie shots together (that was after we quit the JW thing...). Looking back... I should have bought them some booze, the photos that night turned out terribly stale.

Ehem, anyway. I'm all digital myself, I prefer them for the speed at which I can get feedback, being able to take thousands of shots without any substantial cost. Save that money for a good lightbox or lens. I've used canons and nikons and both have their merits.

- Lime

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Is the Bible Really Scientifically Accurate?

by FreeAtLast1914 in

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the society (and others) love to quote job 26:7 where it says that "[god] suspends the earth over nothing" and isaiah 40:22, where it speaks of "the circle of the earth".

they use these scriptures to boast about the incredible scientific accuracy of the bible, proving god had a direct hand in everything written in it.. the trouble is that elsewhere in the scriptures, opposing views are put forth explaining then-unexplainable physics and geographical notions.

one is job 26:11: "the pillars of heaven tremble.

HintOfLime

Well, I guess a 700 yr old prediction about a man being born who is called God didn't impress you.

Nope. Horus did it first - depending on what references you go by though... that stuff becomes really mucky with christians giving one account of horus and non-christians a different account.

At any rate, it's not the first or the last time a 'savior' is foretold in a holy book. I'm not sure why that is impressive.

- Lime

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Is the Bible Really Scientifically Accurate?

by FreeAtLast1914 in

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the society (and others) love to quote job 26:7 where it says that "[god] suspends the earth over nothing" and isaiah 40:22, where it speaks of "the circle of the earth".

they use these scriptures to boast about the incredible scientific accuracy of the bible, proving god had a direct hand in everything written in it.. the trouble is that elsewhere in the scriptures, opposing views are put forth explaining then-unexplainable physics and geographical notions.

one is job 26:11: "the pillars of heaven tremble.

HintOfLime

I engaged in this thread to address the misrepresentation of science in past statements. The topic of the thread is the scientific accuracy of the bible. Not my personal opinions on christians. (Cute picture you paint of me though. Argue the merits of the messenger rather than the messenger, etc. etc.)

The facts and evidence surrounds us - we just have to look (and use the right tools). But most people don't seem to take any note of God, or think that it is all just 'religious speculation'. Somehow people with no religious education whatsoever can look at a research paper showing the facts in detail that God exists and created all things and yet will critique the paper on the basis that it "isn't what I want to believe".

How cute. By "facts" in your copy I assume you mean "feelings".

The facts you cite really do not explain the very thing you claimed to know: the origins of the universe. The age of the earth and the sun and their elements do not explain the origins of the universe. Age and origin are two different things.

Science does have theories regarding the origin of the universe, however the evidence those theories are based on tend to be rather second-hand: background levels of radiation and such. The amount of evidence to base those theory from may grow as our technology and understanding in other areas improve. In the meantime, its not a strong theory. But still it is fairly obviously things did not happen in the order described in geneis - for which there is absolutely no evidence for whatsoever.

In a case of 3 weak facts vs. 0 facts - 3 weak facts can still make a strongcase.

- Lime

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Is the Bible Really Scientifically Accurate?

by FreeAtLast1914 in

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friends

the society (and others) love to quote job 26:7 where it says that "[god] suspends the earth over nothing" and isaiah 40:22, where it speaks of "the circle of the earth".

they use these scriptures to boast about the incredible scientific accuracy of the bible, proving god had a direct hand in everything written in it.. the trouble is that elsewhere in the scriptures, opposing views are put forth explaining then-unexplainable physics and geographical notions.

one is job 26:11: "the pillars of heaven tremble.

HintOfLime

Ok, what are your good hard facts about the origins of the earth?

See what I mean? You no-doubt went to school but apparently didn't learn a thing in science class. We know what the planets are made of. We can calculate how old the earth is, when it formed, how old the sun is, what elements comprise the sun and what relation those have to the planets. We can take ice core samples and determine what the atmosphere was comprised of millions of years ago. We can create computer simulations of the planetary bodies orientations and calculate backwards where they formed and from what materials.

The facts and evidence surrounds us - we just have to look (and use the right tools). But most people don't seem to take any note of it, or think that it is all just 'scientific speculation'. Somehow people with no scientific education whatsoever can look at a research paper showing the facts in detail that the atmosphere long ago had much less oxygen - and yet will critique the paper on the basis that it "isn't what mommy taught me".

Blech. It's mass ignorance. Most people are too lazy to do any personal research - they latch onto the first explination they get and will believe it no matter how much evidence is produced to the contrary.

- Lime

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Is the Bible Really Scientifically Accurate?

by FreeAtLast1914 in

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friends

the society (and others) love to quote job 26:7 where it says that "[god] suspends the earth over nothing" and isaiah 40:22, where it speaks of "the circle of the earth".

they use these scriptures to boast about the incredible scientific accuracy of the bible, proving god had a direct hand in everything written in it.. the trouble is that elsewhere in the scriptures, opposing views are put forth explaining then-unexplainable physics and geographical notions.

one is job 26:11: "the pillars of heaven tremble.

HintOfLime

"I found good hard facts about where the universe and I came from -"

What are your good hard facts about the origins of the universe?

Lol, ok, maybe not the universe. I meant the earth.

I overspoke on that one.

- Lime

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Is the Bible Really Scientifically Accurate?

by FreeAtLast1914 in

jw
friends

the society (and others) love to quote job 26:7 where it says that "[god] suspends the earth over nothing" and isaiah 40:22, where it speaks of "the circle of the earth".

they use these scriptures to boast about the incredible scientific accuracy of the bible, proving god had a direct hand in everything written in it.. the trouble is that elsewhere in the scriptures, opposing views are put forth explaining then-unexplainable physics and geographical notions.

one is job 26:11: "the pillars of heaven tremble.

HintOfLime

Why are atheists so obsessed with God? Move on already!

I know exactly why I am here, and often end up remarking on God. Because I found good hard facts about where the universe and I came from - and those set me free from superstition. I don't care about god. I care about the people who are leaving the JW organization and wind up here - surrounded by people that desperately want to lure them back into another snare of darkness and superstition.

Most JW's have not seriously considered the theory of evolution - and they have been fed straw-man arguments and lies about it. They were not encouraged to pursue education - intellegence and knowledge! These are important things that all humans should strive for, not scowl at.

So.. I make no apologies if this disrupts the recruitment plans of the religious people here. It's not about gods, and I don't need to move on. I like it right here.

- Lime