Wow. Talk about taking a wack at hornets' nest with a stick.
Go back to church, lgadsden - "god" needs more of your time and money to keep his religious printing company afloat.
- Lime
jehovahs day comes at this moment and u realize u were in the right place but because of leaving you are now doomed.
would everything gained (temporary) enjoyment worth it?.
Wow. Talk about taking a wack at hornets' nest with a stick.
Go back to church, lgadsden - "god" needs more of your time and money to keep his religious printing company afloat.
- Lime
i never understood why jws were told to pray to jehovah in order to have someone change their course, open their heart, make the way---when in reality it is like asking for a miracle to happen.
witnesses say miracles have been done away with and god doesn't work this way any longer.. if you're going through a bad time, pray to god and he will help you if you have faith.
he'll "bless" you!
do you believe the bible is unfallible, unerring and totally accurate?.
do you believe the bible is a "good book" with much good about it but not something that should be totally believed?.
do you not believe in the bible at all as being "god's word"?.
The Bible | The Lord of the Rings | The Real World | |
Talking Plants/Animals | Yes | Yes | No Evidence |
Magic | Yes | Yes | No Evidence |
Souls/Spirits | Yes | Yes | No Evidence |
Fortelling the Future | Yes | Yes | Not in a reliable way. |
Demons | Yes | Yes | No Evidence |
Dragons | Yes | Yes | No Evidence |
Giants | Yes | Yes | No Evidence |
Curses | Yes | Yes | No Evidence |
Possession | Yes | Yes | No Evidence |
Message | Negative. You were born a sinner. You deserve to die. Maybe God will 'fix' you. | Positive. There are good people | N/A |
Accurate knowledge on how | No | No | Yes, and getting better all the time, thanks to science. |
So in regards to the original question... absolutely not. My pattern matching skills do work.
- Lime
we know that king david committed adultery with bathsheba and she got pregnant by him, after the baby boy was born, he had to pay for his father's sin by his death.
do you think if a man or woman made a baby before they get married, do you think they will lose their illegitimate 'good' child at the great day of jehovah and one of their or both parents survive the great day of jehovah?
do you think it might be a possibility of that happening to at least one of them when the big a arrives?.
Satan is this huge pain in the arse up in heaven, right? So God proposes to get rid of Satan, to shut him up once and for all, he'd just kill EVERYBODY!
Someone irritates God, so God goes postal and kills everybody. Wow. Such divine wisdom. Certainly God is a just and loving creator.
See? If you kill all your sons, good and bad, with no judgment involved whatsoever, then you get rid of Satan for one. And for two, you don't have to listen to any complaints or complicated legal issues of God's hypocrisy.
Someone call the feds and make sure this poster doesn't own a gun. His reasoning and sense of morality scares the sh*t out of me.
God played the ultimate card -- The LEGAL LIFESPAN card! Even Satan won't argue that the creator has the right to decide on the lifespan of his creatures.
Translation: "Your life is just a game to me and my [imaginary] God."
So that's the game. EVERYBODY DIES. Everybody. Including God's beloved firstborn, yes, Jesus Christ, Michael the Archangel must die also.
Seriously, this is supposed to be the best solution an all-powerful God could come up with? "I know! I'll kill everyone! I'll even kill my own son! YES!! MWA HA HA!!!!"
Its like the hair-brained plot of a Mystery Science Theater movie.
- Lime
i find it mind numbing that jw's and religios in particular never see this.
jehovah is the patron god of the jews.
yet he treats them like utter shit, worse than slaves.
I've been hanging out with a lot of them lately and a lot of them are ANGRY with the God of the Bible.
You say that as if it automatically proves something. Angry people = wrong. God is often angry in the Old Testament, by your logic, doesn't that make him wrong?
If there is a God, and he really did the things in the Old Testament - the question is "Why shouldn't we be angry?" It's no secret that God does some dispicable things in the Old Testament, whether you want to excuse him for it or not.
Why aren't you angry? Is it ok for God to think and behave as bad and sometimes worse than your average human leader?
It's all absolute nonsense of course. God as portrayed in the bible is far to emotionally driven to be a wise, all-knowing, intellegent creator. For God to become angry at humans is as nonsensical as me becomming angry at my computer for behaving as I programmed it, but not as I intended to program it. A God that responds emotionally to his subjects doing exactly what they are programmed to do is stupidity.
- Lime
i ran into an ex jw i used to babysitt when i was a teenager.
that really makes you feel old, you know :-) anyway i invited her over for some coffee and we got talking gossip of course.
she was in for several years after me and was filling me in on all the juicy stuff i shouldnt care about :-) .
If your brother is a witness, he no-doubt already has plenty of people meddling in his life. What good could it do to demonstrate that outsiders can be as petty and childish as the JWs?
Just let it go and hope your brother sees the light. Take comfort that somewhere in a stadium once your brother enjoyed a normal human experience. Don't let the evil things he does in the name of religion justify doing evil things yourself.
- Lime
i was told they were practically begging those elders and servants who are no longer "being used" to help carry the load once again.
these people are unbelievable!.
As long as they keep piling on the rules and 'conscious matters' whereby 'picking wrong' means you can't serve - then they will continue to lose servants.
Every time they add a new "conscious matter" you can take the existing servant body and multiply it by 0.99. Repeat 100 times.
Basically, if you're a normal human, you do not apply. They can beg all they want - but nobody but old boring or broken people can measure up to all of that... and even they have to keep a few secrets.
- Lime
i know of an elderly, pioneer sister who has a disfellowshipped son with a terminal illness.
and until recently, she has had no contact with him.
her son doesn't really have much longer to live.
If you can verify the details of this story, I'd suggest you submit it to whatstheharm.net
- Lime
i just don't understand.
i was raised a jw, believed the whole line of bullshit, hook, line, and sinker.
after leaving i still believed in the bible.
What boggles my mind is that there is nothing logical about evolution. As Buckminster Fuller noted, "Evolution is impossible because chromosomes would be missing. So you can't take two monkeys and come up with a human, but you can go the other way and take two humans and come up with something pretty close to monkey. There are a lot of people like that." And here we are on this little speck of nothing, in the middle of nowhere, like a grain of sand in the ocean.
Buckminster Fuller is flat wrong. :P Chromosome 2 in humans is clearly fused.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi8FfMBYCkk
- Lime
i just don't understand.
i was raised a jw, believed the whole line of bullshit, hook, line, and sinker.
after leaving i still believed in the bible.
I never said that all atheists are ex-JWs, but the principle is the same. If you were a Methodist and turned atheist you're in the same sinking boat.
Lol. Yes. The more we peice together the fossil record, the more we learn about our history and that of earth from verifiable facts and simple mathmatics, the more we learn about DNA and genetics... the weaker and weaker the case gets for life comming into existance naturally, and the stronger the case gets for goddidit.
Uh huh. We are the ones in the sinking ship. I guess it's sinking because it's getting loaded down with all the heavy facts and evidence. Meanwhile the bible says god created the earth in 6 days a few thousand years ago. Wow.
Clearly, a product of divine wisdom, and not cavemen making shit up. Go God, Go! pi = 3!
- Lime