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  Fort Hood Under Attack!!!!

  by minimus in

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  at least 3 people have shot and killed a number of those in the army base!

  one has been captured and at least 2 are on the run and still shooting!

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  He has said he did not want to get deployed to a muslim country to kill fellow muslims. He reportedly yelled out "Allah Akbhar" while firing the weapon. Yeah it probably had nothing to do with religion.

  http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091106/ap_on_re_us/us_fort_hood_shooting

  Soldiers who witnessed the rampage reported that the gunman shouted " Allahu Akbar !" — an Arabic phrase for "God is great!" — before opening fire, said Lt. Gen. Robert Cone, the base commander . He said officials had not yet confirmed that Hasan made the comment before the shooting spree.

  He had also gotten counseled for trying to attempt to inappropriatly convert other Soldiers to Islam. He had numerous run ins with fellow Soldiers arguing against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Posted on muslim "extremist" websites openly praising suicide bombers.
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  Fort Hood Under Attack!!!!

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  at least 3 people have shot and killed a number of those in the army base!

  one has been captured and at least 2 are on the run and still shooting!

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  There was only 1. The reports were coming in very inaccurately. Its very possible for one guy to do what was done. Supposedly he had 2 pistols and a few extra magazines. Seeing as how SRT buildings are usually very crammed with Soldiers there would be plenty of targets that could be hit without much effort or movement. I find it funny how the media was reporting that at least one of the pistols used was semi-automatic as though that is some special quality. Most pistols are semi-automatic. I would venture a guess that its probably like 95% of those sold in the US are semi-auto.

  They had previously detained 2 others for questioning but I guess they were satisfied that they were not involved. It would be pretty obvious if they were, ie gun powder on hands of the person who discharged the weapon.
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  Besieged abortion clinic closes

  by Kenneson in

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  the pensacola abortion clinic that was the scene of a fire bombing, two murders and repeated protests has closed down its doors.. http://40daysforlife.com/blog/?p=523.

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  I thought to the Left we were supposed to try to understand the root causes of the terrorist so that we could bring our behavior in to line with what the terrorist were so angry about. I guess that only counts with muslim terrorist, they need to be understood and reached out to so they don't hate us, any others well they are just evil people screw them.
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  Fort Hood Under Attack!!!!

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  at least 3 people have shot and killed a number of those in the army base!

  one has been captured and at least 2 are on the run and still shooting!

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  http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/politics/A-Disconnected-President.html

  Its good to see I wasn't the only one put off a bit by the President's reaction.
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  Fort Hood Under Attack!!!!

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  at least 3 people have shot and killed a number of those in the army base!

  one has been captured and at least 2 are on the run and still shooting!

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  double post
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  Fort Hood Under Attack!!!!

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  at least 3 people have shot and killed a number of those in the army base!

  one has been captured and at least 2 are on the run and still shooting!

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  You know we get constantly briefed on not taking part in groups or organizations that cause issues with ones loyalties, such as being part of a racial supremacy group, extremist political groups I really wonder if there shouldn't be added a section about, it being OK to practice ones religion but if your religion causes you to take an active resistance to the stated mission or lawful order given to you, you should not be allowed to be a part of that religion.

  I have run into a number of Soldiers who are muslim. Some practice, some just say they are but do not really practice alot like the Soldiers that claim to be Christian but don't behave like it. I have never once seen any of them questioned as to their loyalties, ostracized, or held back from promotions or awards because they profess to be muslim. Heck we know that if it ever did happen and he or she took it to IG or the EO reps it would be seriously damaging to the offending parties careers and anyone around who let it happen. This guy was claiming he got a little static about him being muslim, well you know what I got static for being a lot of different things, thats part of being in the military. You have to be pretty weak minded to allow remarks like what he claims were made to him set him off to kill 13 and injure dozens more. If he was so worried about being muslim and having to fight other muslims there are plenty of ways to get out of the military all together, by getting Chaptered out probably on a failure to adapt claim. So I wave the BS flag on that one.

  My feeling is he should have just killed himself if those were his real reasons but I suspect it was not. I think he actively wanted to hurt the US military effort as a result of his muslim beliefs. He is basically a traitor. I would even go so far as to investigate whether he was a infiltrator who joined with the very intent on damaging the US military.

  His family that has released the typical response when these kind of things happen. "We love America....blah blah blah" Keep in mind the principle very similar to the JW's that it is OK to lie to unbelievers to advance or defend ones cause. My brother dated a girl who was a non-practicing muslim and during a family gathering with us she came out and told us that her family does just that, in public "Oh we love America and our proud to live in this wonderful country." But behind close doors curse America, non-muslims and think every tragedy that befalls the US is divine retribution for our evils.
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  Bye Bye Van Jones.

  by AK - Jeff in

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  http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090906/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_adviser_resigns_9.

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  Wow I am amazed to see how Beck turned it around on this guy. Jones was trying to take him down hard, but he ended up being the one to get the axe. Poetic justice I guess.
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  Bye Bye Van Jones.

  by AK - Jeff in

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  http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090906/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_adviser_resigns_9.

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  I was dissapointed to see him go. Jones was the gift that kept on giving. He probably has a great gig lined up for himself over at Acorn of the Apollo Group.
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  swine flu is armageddon ! anyone else heard that one ?

  by looloo in

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  my friends mum is a dub , and she has told her grandchild to come back to meetings as armageddon is coming in the form of swine flu and its going to kill everyone in a month because a member of the congregation had a dream , the problem is the month has passed !

  what a lovely grandma telling her grandchild such bedtime stories ,physological child abuse i would have thought it really pisses me off that these people get away with putting such fear into kids heads and have the damn nerve to look down on "worldley people " poor kids .

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  Its always the latest epidemic/pandemic that is the sign that the end is right around the corner.

  From SARS, Avian Flu, Swine Flu each probably last a few months while the scare is huge in the media, and then as it passes by the fear mongering moves on to something else.

  I just wish some people had a sense of proportionality where things like the freaking Pneumonic/Bubonic plagued literally wiped out entire villages and had fatalities in well over 40% in some areas far far worse.
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  What can be done about those who go berserk with a gun?

  by badboy in

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  i don't really understand the phenonoma.. .

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  I am thinking the same thing Hyb. I don't own any personal firearms. I was never the type of guy that need to have a big collection of guns around to make me feel safe at home. The family dog, a baseball bat and a decient amount of self defence training made me feel safe enough. I have never been the big hunter type either. I have only used a pistol or rifle on the job. Are there guys that own guns that really scare me, heck yeah. And there are tons of weapons out there. I forget where I read it but the factoid went something like there are more privately owned firearms in the US then the combined armies of China and Russia combined.

  I think the genie is out of the bottle though as far as guns are concerned and there is really no way to put it back in. Background checks are good. Mandatory safety training is good. But beyond better enforcement of existing laws, ie felons cannot own a gun, etc. There is not much else to be done. There is something to be said about violence in our society though. I was watching a documentary about gangs and they were interviewing some kid and he was talking about how he just got a kick out of smashing people in the face, just random people who had never done anything to him, he got a thrill out of it and all his boys seemed to agree that was the thing to do. Now don't get me wrong there is a time and place for some violence its just a part of human existence but to totally disconnect it from any kind of morality is heading us down a dark path.