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Anybody in the Little Rock Arkansas area?
by donuthole ini'm guesting at the river city comic expo tomorrow, saturday the 16th.
if you get a chance stop by and say hello.
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Outrageous propaganda. "Treat your disfellowshipped loved ones like they're dead, but without mourning them." NOV 2014 study Watchtower
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Has this been used before? Or is this a new thought?
Either way it is cruel to guilt a parent for naturally morning the loss of disfellowshipped child. They really want to stamp out any natural affection. That is sick! -
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Scare tactics and manipulation in the Nov 2014 Watchtower . Low down dirty rotten charlatans
by Watchtower-Free inscare tactics and manipulation in the nov 2014 watchtower .. low down dirty rotten charlatans.
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donuthole
This image really brought back some bad memories of being a child and exposed to fearmongering about the great tribuation. I can remember being afraid that one day the GT would break out and I could be seperated from my family and placed in a concentration where I could be killed for standing up for my faith. I know my parents were trying to prepare me for what they themselves feared, but that is some horrific mental abuse for a child. Now I see the picture in mind placed in a magazine that will be viewed and studied by children. This is the stuff of nightmares and it makes me sick.
A few thoughts from myself and other places on the Web:
Having the creepy girl look away from the group breaks the fourth wall, to place the viewer subconsciously in the basement. As you look through the literature you'll see this technique used often.
Bibles are closed as the elder reads a letter that is positioned to show that is from headquarters. This enforces the idea that the only way out of this frightening scenario is by looking to the Governing Body for salvation.
There are disaster preperations stockpiled in the basement. After Hurrican Katrina Watchtower headquarters told the JW's to start keeping some diaster supplies on hand. I scoffed at some that were taking what appeared to be sound life advice and turning into proof of the nearness of the end. Now I wonder if that was the intent all along by the GB. -
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Scare tactics and manipulation in the Nov 2014 Watchtower . Low down dirty rotten charlatans
by Watchtower-Free inscare tactics and manipulation in the nov 2014 watchtower .. low down dirty rotten charlatans.
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This is disturbing. They are ratcheting up the fear, big time. What's coming?
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E-Watchman? Thoughts?
by thedepressedsoul ini stumbled upon the website e-watchman today and while i didn't have time to read over everything i found this thoughts so far quite interesting.
recently when reading matthew i can't help but feel that jesus warnings about the pharisees also applied to the gb and elders.
actually everytime jesus brought them up i realized how similar they are.
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@rjharris your comments are insightful.
To further elaborate on King's spiritual-schitzophrenia:
He claims to be anointed and attends the JW memorial. However, King does not partake. To do so would be disobedient to the Watchtower organization, since he is disfellowshipped.
So on the one hand he feels that the Watctower has sunk into apostasy, but on the other hand he feels the need to be obedient to them since the religion was still appointed by God. -
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APOLOGIST site addresses APOSTATE complaints
by Terry inthis is a guess on my part.
the watchtower society is using guerilla tactics to unofficially deal with apostatesthrough back channels.. .
the bibles view the primary source for this minisite.gentile times reconsidered again, this time using the bible complete article appears in appendix asetting the record straight also sourced for this website.rolf furuli professor at university of oslo who supports 607jehovahs witnesses united apologetics, etc.the watchtower society as a un ngo demolishing the conspiracy theoryjw child abuse policy exposing the myths
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APOLOGIST site addresses APOSTATE complaints
by Terry inthis is a guess on my part.
the watchtower society is using guerilla tactics to unofficially deal with apostatesthrough back channels.. .
the bibles view the primary source for this minisite.gentile times reconsidered again, this time using the bible complete article appears in appendix asetting the record straight also sourced for this website.rolf furuli professor at university of oslo who supports 607jehovahs witnesses united apologetics, etc.the watchtower society as a un ngo demolishing the conspiracy theoryjw child abuse policy exposing the myths
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donuthole
Here is some more information that I shared 3 years ago @ http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/scandals/197498/2/UN-NGO-PRO-WT-Apologetics-is-TOP-HIT-on-Google-search#.U-uTXfldV8E
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Al was formerly a disciple of Robert King (e-watchman). Al started a companion site called "Jehovah's Judgment"where he wrote his own essays along King's prophetic framework. The jehovahsjudgment.comdomain was registered and setup by King's webmaster Timothy Kline, who also ran the Pathways forum. As a personal comment, Al's articles were much better written then King's own.
My first interactions with 3W were on King's old "Paradise Cafe" forums. At the time 3W hadn't developed the rabid pro-Watchtower persona he has since put on. We had some discussions about Revelation and he even conceded that the locusts from the pit were not the anointed and the abbadon was not Jesus as the Watchtower was teaching. At least online he was a seperate entity from Al.
I don't know what sparked it but Al had some misgivings about King's teaching and had a falling away from King that resulted in Kline seizing control of "Jehovah's Judgment" and shutting it down. (jehovahsjudgment.com now links to a static webpage with an ad for Kline's web company at the bottom.) Al was upset because he felt that Kline had setup the website as a favor for him and not that it was setup as an extension of the e-watchman network. Al switched over to a Watchtower apologist and began disavowing King's teaching. He registered jehovahs-judgment.co.uk and setup his own forum there.
At this time there were others on Pathways and e-Watchman that became disgruntled with King/Kine for whatever reason. Some were returning to a pro-Watchtower stance and they began posting on Al's new forum. (I was surprised today to see the forum still in operation and some of the original posters still active.) Al's site became a kind of base of operations for an anti-e-watchman movement that spilled out onto various forums (such as H20) and blogs.
Around this time 3W had begun to write up essays refuting Watchman's positions that the Watchtower was guilty of mishandling child abuse and had sullied themselves with involvement with the UN. The folks at Al's site saw him as a compatriot in their personal vendeta against King and offered to host his articles on their site.
As an end-note, despite their pretty staunch pro-Watchtower presence, many of these individuals deep down have personal difficulties with the Organization. One individual hadn't been to meetings in 10 years; another lost a child due to blood complications, was DF'd, and wasn't going to the meetings. So I guess that is the sad thing. What may be seen as strong Witnesses supporting their organization is really individuals that are grasping at whatever they can to make it right with "Jehovah" in the wake of their own failings to really make it in the Organization.
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APOLOGIST site addresses APOSTATE complaints
by Terry inthis is a guess on my part.
the watchtower society is using guerilla tactics to unofficially deal with apostatesthrough back channels.. .
the bibles view the primary source for this minisite.gentile times reconsidered again, this time using the bible complete article appears in appendix asetting the record straight also sourced for this website.rolf furuli professor at university of oslo who supports 607jehovahs witnesses united apologetics, etc.the watchtower society as a un ngo demolishing the conspiracy theoryjw child abuse policy exposing the myths
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donuthole
The author is Thirdwitness, a JW apologist who first made an appearance on Robert King's E-Watchmen forums. Thirdwitness originally sided with King's viewpoint that JW's were Jah's chosen people that had fallen into error, later to be restored.
Al Taylor, another disciple of King, set up a companion website called Jehovah's Judgement, with essays further elaborating on King's take that JW's were to be judged and refined. Taylor, however lost faith in King and reverted back to the accepted JW dogma of the day. He set up a website designed to counter King's teachings.
Thirdwitness reverted to a JW apologist and got involved with Taylor. Like Taylor, Thirdwitness primarily focused on countering Robert King. (Also in the crosshairs was Timothy Kline, King's webmaster and forum moderator.) Thirdwitness wrote essays defending the JW's against King's hot topics, Watchtower UN involvement, the 1914 error, and child abuse issues.
At times it has been speculated that Thirdwitness is actually a psuedonym for Al Taylor. Both are reasonably accomplished writers and share a hatred for Robert King. -
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E-Watchman? Thoughts?
by thedepressedsoul ini stumbled upon the website e-watchman today and while i didn't have time to read over everything i found this thoughts so far quite interesting.
recently when reading matthew i can't help but feel that jesus warnings about the pharisees also applied to the gb and elders.
actually everytime jesus brought them up i realized how similar they are.
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His name is Robert King. He was disfellowshipped as an apostate. He believes that Jehovah's Witnesses are God’s chosen people, but in error. He wrote a book, Jehovah has Become King, which re-interprets Bible prophecy casting Jehovah's Witnesses (not Christendom, as per the Watchtower) as an anti-typical wayward Israel. His exegesis bore similarities to the Report by ex-CO/cultist Donald Burney, leading some to suggest plagiarism. He styles himself as the true successor to the lineage of Russell, Rutherford, and Knorr, with the suggestion that his early use of podcasts has a kinship with early Watchtower efforts in new technology like “talking” motion pictures. Like Jehovah's Witnesses King's slant is very apocalyptic, leaning heavily on controversial-activist, Lyndon Larouche. King often relies on Larouche in his prophetic interpretation, as well. At various times King has gained a small following of ex-Jehovah’s Witnesses. His message is particularly attractive to ex-Jehovah’s Witnesses who are aware of the Watchtower’s controversies, but still believe that the religion is basically the truth. He has held few followers as recently disfellowshipped individuals gravitate further away from a Watchtower-centric worldview. Nevertheless, King remains vigilent on the Internet, most recently as a YouTube prophet, decrying the abuses and failures of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society. In doing so he has insinuated that he is Ezekiel, Jah's modern day watchman.
… Robert I’m available to write your biography. That’s a free taste. I'm thinking the title could be, "Robert Has Become King!" What do you think? That's a freebie too.
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Singing, dancing, etc at Int. Conv's, pushed by top leadership?
by WingCommander inover the past several months, we've seen a flood of youtube video's showing not just the advertising of the cities for the international conventions, but also of the "entertainment" happening at various convention halls and congregations.
examples would be the line-dancing, worldly music, dancing outside the conventions, etc.
many of us who grew up in this ultra-strict, thou-shalt-not cult are left with our jaws on the floor at this seemingly "worldly" display of showy, excessive, mainstream behaviour.. progress is happening.
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Story #1
When I was a teenager in the early 90's, a married sister in the congregation was having a party for young people at a local park. Teenagers prepared Saturnal Night Live style sketches and afterward there was dancing to pop music. There was cake and punch. It was more wholesome than American Bandstand. My father was a Presiding Overseer and thought that it would set a bad example for the congregation if I attended such a gathering. He finally relented when he it turned out that I was the only one not going.
Story #2
Around the same time our congregation was getting ready to pour concrete in our gravel parking lot. A few of us stayed overnight to watch the tools and materials and that were stored onsite. My father was outside roasting a whole pig on a spit to feed the friends the next afternoon. Meanwhile I was inside with my buddy and we were bored. He had the key to the sound system and I got the great idea that we would play some music. We popped in a cassette and I went so far as to dance on the stage before we were busted by an elder. To say that I got "in trouble" would be an understatement. I felt awful and for years after believed that if I didn't make it through Armaggedon it was because I had defied Jehovah's house with worldly music.
I'm dumfounded to see these very things happening in sactioned Kingdom Hall events today.
I bet single, elderly Bethelites may have felt the same way when Knorr suddenly returned to Bethel a married man, after it had been condemned for so long.