Posts by cattails

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About the New WT Logo......

by cameo-d in

square wave in five steps.

gibbs phenomenon.. could "square wave" be a symbol of affinity with another cult?.

every calculated move of the nwo is based on pythagorean theorems.. .

cattails

That looks like a silhouette of Batman to me.

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I just feel like crying... I'm so fed up of the hypocrisy!

by cattails in

i was very disgusted with the wt study for today.. towards the end of the article it refers to matthew 15 (see quoted scripture below).

this is a beautiful passage where jesus says his followers need to be hospitable, care for sick, hungry and imprisoned brothers.. they turn it around and say that for jw's this means they need to support the "faithful and discreet slave" by going in door-to-door witnessing, making monetary contributions to support the worldwide witnessing work, and following the directions and counsel of congregation elders.. and the worst part of it all is that there were several commenters giving almost word for word answers to that effect, they didn't even seem to listen to previous comments, they just repeated mindlessly what the paragraph said... i was ready to burst.

mom knew i was about to have a fit right there and then.

cattails

Could you put the Watchtower article or the date of the Watchtower?

Hi Cindi, it's from the Watchtower (Study Edition) of October 15, 2009

the study article is entitled “You Are My Friends”

(for study during the week of December 14-20, 2009).

And thanks all for the encouragement and advice.

Cattails

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I just feel like crying... I'm so fed up of the hypocrisy!

by cattails in

i was very disgusted with the wt study for today.. towards the end of the article it refers to matthew 15 (see quoted scripture below).

this is a beautiful passage where jesus says his followers need to be hospitable, care for sick, hungry and imprisoned brothers.. they turn it around and say that for jw's this means they need to support the "faithful and discreet slave" by going in door-to-door witnessing, making monetary contributions to support the worldwide witnessing work, and following the directions and counsel of congregation elders.. and the worst part of it all is that there were several commenters giving almost word for word answers to that effect, they didn't even seem to listen to previous comments, they just repeated mindlessly what the paragraph said... i was ready to burst.

mom knew i was about to have a fit right there and then.

cattails

I was very disgusted with the WT study for today.

Towards the end of the article it refers to Matthew 15 (see quoted Scripture below).

This is a beautiful passage where Jesus says his followers need to be hospitable, care for sick, hungry and imprisoned brothers.

They turn it around and say that for JW's this means they need to support the "faithful and discreet slave" by going in door-to-door witnessing, making monetary contributions to support the worldwide witnessing work, and following the directions and counsel of congregation elders.

And the worst part of it all is that there were several commenters giving almost word for word answers to that effect, they didn't even seem to listen to previous comments, they just repeated mindlessly what the paragraph said... I was ready to burst. Mom knew I was about to have a fit right there and then. But I held it together long enough to exit to the bathroom and almost threw up. I feel like a hypocrite listening and not saying "Didn't anyone listen to the verses in that Scripture? It's about helping the lowly ones not the Watch Tower Society!

Where was the Spirit of the Scripture in taking care of the lowly one, feeding the hungry, clothing the poor, caring for the sick. What brazen hypocrisy to change the meaning of this Scripture to making sure more mindless followers are found in service, and making sure too that the Society's coffers are full. Oh and don't forget to follow the elders whims even if they're imperfect men... because... because... They are "appointed by holy spirit"!

I can't stand it any longer! I really can't. But if I voice anything like this I'm out on my rear, and with only a part-time job for the foreseeable future I just don't know how to go on. I really don't. I feel like a hypocrite just being there and can't say anything. I just feel like crying.

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Matthew 15

31 “When the Son of man arrives in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit down on his glorious throne. 32 And all the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate people one from another, just as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 And he will put the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left.

34 “Then the king will say to those on his right, ‘Come, YOU who have been blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for YOU from the founding of the world. 35 For I became hungry and YOU gave me something to eat; I got thirsty and YOU gave me something to drink. I was a stranger and YOU received me hospitably; 36 naked, and YOU clothed me. I fell sick and YOU looked after me. I was in prison and YOU came to me.’ 37 Then the righteous ones will answer him with the words, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty, and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and receive you hospitably, or naked, and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to you?’ 40 And in reply the king will say to them, ‘Truly I say to YOU , T o the extent that YOU did it to one of the least of these my brothers, YOU did it to me. ’

41 “Then he will say, in turn, to those on his left, ‘Be on YOUR way from me, YOU who have been cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the Devil and his angels. 42 For I became hungry, but YOU gave me nothing to eat, and I got thirsty, but YOU gave me nothing to drink. 43 I was a stranger, but YOU did not receive me hospitably; naked, but YOU did not clothe me; sick and in prison, but YOU did not look after me.’ 44 Then they also will answer with the words, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison and did not minister to you?’ 45 Then he will answer them with the words, ‘Truly I say to YOU , To the extent that YOU did not do it to one of these least ones, YOU did not do it to me.’ 46 And these will depart into everlasting cutting-off, but the righteous ones into everlasting life.”

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WTS claims to shine as brightly as the Sun

by cattails in

just saw this pop up at the fuentes' forum extjforum.com.

http://www.extjforo.com/foro/showthread.php?t=15473 .

it's a scan (you can thank iloowy for the scan) of the march 15, 2010 watchtower where there's a picture of a radiant sun of a wt logo along with a tm mark right next to a paragraph that says 'they "will shine as brightly as the sun"' (matthew 13:43).. .

cattails

But why choose a place holder graphic that exactly illustrates what's being discussed in that paragraph.

Shining brightly as the Sun, and they put a WT circular logo radiating like it was a Sun.

They do this on purpose or what? I tend to think so. They don't tend to do many things on accident in those WTs.

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WTS claims to shine as brightly as the Sun

by cattails in

just saw this pop up at the fuentes' forum extjforum.com.

http://www.extjforo.com/foro/showthread.php?t=15473 .

it's a scan (you can thank iloowy for the scan) of the march 15, 2010 watchtower where there's a picture of a radiant sun of a wt logo along with a tm mark right next to a paragraph that says 'they "will shine as brightly as the sun"' (matthew 13:43).. .

cattails

But since when doesn't the WT consider every single detail before publication?

If they used a radiant logo place holder where the article talks about shining as brightly as the Sun you have to figure that they did this on purpose.

Not much get by, everything is scrutinized and double checked.

Maybe the reason was to get our panties all in a huff, but to me they did this on purpose. No accident here. Besides

there doesn't appear to be a logo like that anywhere else in the magazine, nor in the other PDF issues so far that I can see.

I call foul, but on purpose, they've done it with full knowledge that it would be talked about, maybe they even discussed it before making it available.

I wouldn't put it past the WTS.

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Pre-busted

by Heartbreaker in

jw
friends

i mean, i can only imagine that's what i am.

i read a post here on my phone, and wish could remember who it was, to give credit, but i can not.

it was about the slow fade or some such, and the merits to just getting out, or doing it slowly.

cattails

Cancel your Facebook page for a while.

Then go back and re-log in, all your stuff will be up as if you never canceled your account.

Just take a break from it all, and maybe go back to fading quietly. People have other things

to do and if they can't access your facebook account to look then they might just leave you

alone about it. Otherwise they may print out the photos or something.

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WTS claims to shine as brightly as the Sun

by cattails in

just saw this pop up at the fuentes' forum extjforum.com.

http://www.extjforo.com/foro/showthread.php?t=15473 .

it's a scan (you can thank iloowy for the scan) of the march 15, 2010 watchtower where there's a picture of a radiant sun of a wt logo along with a tm mark right next to a paragraph that says 'they "will shine as brightly as the sun"' (matthew 13:43).. .

cattails

Do you think the reason they print an article about accepting changes and remaining meek

is that only meek and humble people are the one's they want, and sift out anyone else,

the meek are the ones they can control easily.

If you were in the KH and studying this WT... Would it finally send you over the cliff and

make you want to get out quick from the high control Society which insist you be meek

and accept their changes, and their further changes, and their other changes on top of

that.

How many changes would it take for a person to finally say I'm done with the crazy changes.

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Hebrew speaking Jews / Messianic Jews

by EndofMysteries in

while i was trying to get some answers yesterday about hebrew translations, i emailed from a jewish website in which they had some hebrew writings and the torah on there.

i was asking if a hebrew translation to english was done correctly, it was a scripture with the word hell, and he said it was done correctly, except that the word wasn't hell but pit, grave, etc, that those scriptures never teach of a hell, it was apostasized and jews know those scriptures to mean plain old death.

see, so more then just jw's know hell isn't real or taught in the bible.

cattails

Oh, my. Larsinger58 you sound pretty strange and it would be good for you not to be accusing Jews of having some hidden agenda.

Most Jews I know are either very secular or very religious and have respect for God and the Torah. You're insulting them when you say things like that.

Besides a lot of what you post sounds to me like you've been taking LSD before writing it.

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WTS claims to shine as brightly as the Sun

by cattails in

just saw this pop up at the fuentes' forum extjforum.com.

http://www.extjforo.com/foro/showthread.php?t=15473 .

it's a scan (you can thank iloowy for the scan) of the march 15, 2010 watchtower where there's a picture of a radiant sun of a wt logo along with a tm mark right next to a paragraph that says 'they "will shine as brightly as the sun"' (matthew 13:43).. .

cattails

A previous article in this same WT is entitled:

"Remaining in God’s Favor Despite Changes"

It deals with the need to be meek and not

let changes deviate you from remaining

approved by God. In other words, if you

don't like the fact that we went back and

forth about when the Harvest time is then

don't let it get to you or you're OUT. Either

be meek or we'll make you meek. Now be

a good dubby and shut up about complaints.

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WTS claims to shine as brightly as the Sun

by cattails in

just saw this pop up at the fuentes' forum extjforum.com.

http://www.extjforo.com/foro/showthread.php?t=15473 .

it's a scan (you can thank iloowy for the scan) of the march 15, 2010 watchtower where there's a picture of a radiant sun of a wt logo along with a tm mark right next to a paragraph that says 'they "will shine as brightly as the sun"' (matthew 13:43).. .

cattails

The graphic doesn't even fit in with all the other illustrations in the article.

It seems oddly out of place and too abstract.

Do you think they'll change it in the printed copies to go out in a couple of months

because of all the discussion and the outcry here about it?

Could it be that it was a mistake? Is there some other graphic

that they should have used and this is just a place holder?

We've never gotten articles on pdf before so maybe this is

a freak accident and they should have used a different graphic

but it wasn't available by release time? Naaaaaa.... the WTS

is too controlling and too rigid to allow any mistakes like that.