"a friend to man, to whom thou say'st,
'Beauty is truth, truth beauty,—that is all
Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know"
--John Keats, Ode on a Grecian Urn
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What is Truth?
by AK - Jeff inif one 'googles' the phrase, you get 167,000,000 hits!.
'bing' it, and you get 129,000,000 hits.. here is a sampling of opinion from just the first page of google hits.. 1] douglas groothuis, ph.d., teaches philosophy at denver seminary.
here is his 'take' on truth: http://www.leaderu.com/theology/groothuis-truth.html.
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RE: 'I have been through anguish' - DEFAMATION CASE AT WEXFORD CIRCUIT CIVIL COURT
by cattails inhe said he had not met adam ballard for a number of years.
adam also conveyed the details and accused me of raping him in navan and other places.
it was also supposed to have happened in some woods.
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Father and sons fail in their defamation case
COURT HEARD ALLEGATIONS OF SEXUAL ABUSE
Wednesday March 17 2010
A FATHER and three sons failed in their defamation action brought against a fellow member of the Jehovah Witnesses when judgement was delivered at Kilkenny Circuit Court on Wednesday last.
And is that your real pic 'cattails'? If so, I salute you.
I salute you back.
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cattails
US President John F. Kennedy greeting Josip Broz Tito during his visit to the US
Zid, do you know the man with this young Irish guy?
Yup! That's Tito, not the Jackson one
but the dictator like the one in your avatar:
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Check out what's been jabbing the WT branch there lately?
"A FATHER and three sons spoke of their shock and hurt when a fellow member of the Jehovah's Witnesses community in New Ross alleged he had been raped by them. William O'Connor, of Corcoran's Lane, Irishtown, New Ross, and sons Michael, John and Gerard O'Connor, all of the same address, brought a defamation case against Adam Ballard, with an address of Clonmore, Clareen, Birr, Co. Offaly, before Judge Alice Doyle at Wexford Circuit Civil Court..."
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Choosing the Best Way of Life -- Hold to Your Choice!
by cattails inalong with this sad attempt at explaining away.
the 1975 fiasco, and excusing error although.
without actually coming out and accepting blame.
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cattails
Along with this sad attempt at explaining away
the 1975 fiasco, and excusing error although
without actually coming out and accepting blame
or asking forgiveness, the WT writing department
as overseen by the GB of the tumultuous year of
1980 came out with a precious quote (paragraph 6):
"6 In its issue of July 15, 1976, The Watchtower, commenting on the inadvisability of setting our sights on a certain date, stated: “If anyone has been disappointed through not following this line of thought, he should now concentrate on adjusting his viewpoint, seeing that it was not the word of God that failed or deceived him and brought disappointment, but that his own understanding was based on wrong premises.” In saying “anyone,” The Watchtower included all disappointed ones of Jehovah’s Witnesses, hence including persons having to do with the publication of the information that contributed to the buildup of hopes centered on that date."
The wording is hard to follow. But notice that it jabs
at the fact that those in HQ were also "disappointed".
What strikes me as obvious is the fact that they are
trying to hide and at the same time trying to let out
information about their obvious shame in setting up
hopes that were erroneous and turned out to be only
empty expectations and failed prophecies.
Why don't they have the cojones to say we were wrong. We apologize. We learned our lesson. Why not?
I think the reason is they are drunk with their power and control, they are beating their fellow slaves by
setting up a two class Christian congregation, (The GB who represents WT 'genuine anointed ones', and secondly,
everyone else who follows them), and then they act behind the scenes as if the end isn't really coming so soon,
demonstrated by their landholdings and real estate maneuverings all over the globe.
Here's more from that article, it's a keeper.
*** w80 3/15 pp. 17-18 Choosing the Best Way of Life ***
Hold to Your Choice!
4 If we remain faithful, God will not let us make ruinous mistakes. But sometimes he permits us to be in error so that we may see our need to look always to him and his Word. This strengthens our relationship with him and our endurance while waiting. We learn from our mistakes that it is necessary to be more careful in the future. The desire for the new system of things to take complete charge of the earth has always been very strong in Christians down through the centuries. And because of their own short life-span, they doubtless longed for it to come in their particular lifetime. Those who have tried to keep God’s judgment time “close in mind” have, on more than one occasion throughout history, become overly eager for that day’s arrival, in their own minds trying to rush the arrival of the desired events. (2 Pet. 3:12) In the first century, for example, the apostle Paul found it necessary to write to Christians in Thessalonica in this fashion, as we read at 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3: “However, brothers, respecting the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we request of you not to be quickly shaken from your reason nor to be excited either through an inspired expression or through a verbal message or through a letter as though from us, to the effect that the day of Jehovah is here. Let no one seduce you in any manner, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction.”
5 In modern times such eagerness, commendable in itself, has led to attempts at setting dates for the desired liberation from the suffering and troubles that are the lot of persons throughout the earth. With the appearance of the book Life Everlasting—in Freedom of the Sons of God, and its comments as to how appropriate it would be for the millennial reign of Christ to parallel the seventh millennium of man’s existence, considerable expectation was aroused regarding the year 1975. There were statements made then, and thereafter, stressing that this was only a possibility. Unfortunately, however, along with such cautionary information, there were other statements published that implied that such realization of hopes by that year was more of a probability than a mere possibility. It is to be regretted that these latter statements apparently overshadowed the cautionary ones and contributed to a buildup of the expectation already initiated.
6 In its issue of July 15, 1976, The Watchtower, commenting on the inadvisability of setting our sights on a certain date, stated: “If anyone has been disappointed through not following this line of thought, he should now concentrate on adjusting his viewpoint, seeing that it was not the word of God that failed or deceived him and brought disappointment, but that his own understanding was based on wrong premises.” In saying “anyone,” The Watchtower included all disappointed ones of Jehovah’s Witnesses, hence including persons having to do with the publication of the information that contributed to the buildup of hopes centered on that date.
7 Nevertheless, there is no reason for us to be shaken in faith in God’s promises. Rather, as a consequence, we are all moved to make a closer examination of the Scriptures regarding this matter of a day of judgment. In doing so, we find that the important thing is not the date. What is important is our keeping ever in mind that there is such a day—and it is getting closer and it will require an accounting on the part of all of us. Peter said that Christians should rightly be “awaiting and keeping close in mind the presence of the day of Jehovah.” (2 Pet. 3:12) It is not a certain date ahead; it is day-to-day living on the part of the Christian that is important. He must not live a single day without having in mind that he is under Jehovah’s loving care and direction and must submit himself thereto, keeping also in mind that he must account for his acts.
8 Jesus gave the reason why we should maintain such a viewpoint, saying: “For the Son of man is destined to come in the glory of his Father with his angels, and then he will recompense each one according to his behavior.” (Matt. 16:27) The apostle Paul also pointed out: “We shall all stand before the judgment seat of God . . . So, then, each of us will render an account for himself to God.” (Rom. 14:10-12) And, “we must all be made manifest before the judgment seat of the Christ, that each one may get his award for the things done through the body, according to the things he has practiced, whether it is good or vile.” (2 Cor. 5:10) How long do we have before making such an accounting? Jesus said: “He that has endured to the end is the one that will be saved.” (Matt. 24:13) When is “the end”? That end can come either at the end of this system of things or at the individual’s own death before then. How long, then, does each one of us have? No one can calculate the day when he will die. Likewise, Jesus said to his apostles about the time for establishing God’s kingdom: “It does not belong to you to get knowledge of the times or seasons which the Father has placed in his own jurisdiction.” (Acts 1:7) It is impossible for us to figure out the world’s end in advance.
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Why do some of you JW's stay in the organization?
by dgp ini have read that up to 67% of all jw's leave the religion when they come of age.
so i wish i could know why the others stay.
in your opinion, what keeps them in?
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cattails
Some of us... well, I'm just speaking for myself, but I feel stuck, fenced in by family ties.
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RUSSIA: Raids, literature confiscations and criminal case in Tambov--first such reported home raids against them since the Soviet era--Forum 18 News Service reports
by cattails in22 march 2010. russia: raids, literature confiscations and criminal case in tambov.
by geraldine fagan, forum 18 news service , and felix corley, forum 18 news service .
russia has raided three flats of jehovah's witnesses in tambov in the first such reported home raids against them since the soviet era, forum 18 news service has learnt.
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22 March 2010
RUSSIA: Raids, literature confiscations and criminal case in Tambov
By Geraldine Fagan, Forum 18 News Service , and Felix Corley, Forum 18 News Service Russia has raided three flats of Jehovah's Witnesses in Tambov in the first such reported home raids against them since the Soviet era, Forum 18 News Service has learnt. The raids follow previous raids on the homes of Muslims who read the works of theologian Said Nursi. The police protocol of one search gives its aim as confiscation of "items of literature and electronic devices propagandising religious hatred, as well as other documentation recording activity by the religious group 'Jehovah's Witnesses'". Search warrants referred to the opening of a case under Criminal Code Article 282 ("incitement of ethnic, racial or religious hatred"). Forum 18 was unable to find out why the house searches were ordered, nor why copies of the search warrants were not given to the victims. Tambov Regional Police claimed that "these were not raids but searches". Distribution, preparation or storage with the aim of distribution of Jehovah's Witness literature on the Federal List of Extremist Materials could result in a five-year prison term.
Investigator Igor Avdeyev, who is leading the investigation and initiated the search warrants, confirmed to Forum 18 from Tambov on 22 March that he has opened a criminal case under Article 282 Part 1 (incitement to hatred or hostility or denigration of an individual's human worth on the basis of religious affiliation), which carries a maximum two-year prison term. He said the case is over the "fact of distribution by Jehovah's Witnesses of extremist material", but "at present it is not against specific individuals".
However, Avdeyev declined absolutely to discuss further "the course of the investigation", including who had taken the initiative to launch the case and why the Jehovah's Witness community is being presented as having committed crimes without a trial having taken place. Jehovah's Witnesses denied to Forum 18 that any of their literature is extremist.
Avdeyev was quoted by Russian media websites on 17 March as maintaining that some 100 people had distributed banned Jehovah's Witness literature and would be interrogated in the near future.
Jehovah's Witnesses and readers of Muslim theologian Said Nursi have been particular victims of government action against alleged religious "extremism", with many of their works being branded "extremist" and those who distribute them subject to prosecution (see F18News 5 March 2010 http://www.forum18.org/Archive.php?article_id=1417).
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Yay for Womanhood! Female Min.Serv's under consideration.
by cattails inthe "priscilla" deliberations.. gb subcommittees now re-considering role of women in the organization.. example of phoebe as "diakonos" revisited.. could women be appointed to ministerial servant positions in view of the need in congregations?.
what's your take on latest rumors?
http://www.extjforo.com/foro/showthread.php?t=14821.
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An MS and his "wife" sit out back and work (together) on the sound system cabinet, she helps get things prgramed and adjusted for the meeting.
... another sister, a pioneer, helps out opening boxes of magazines and putting them alphabetically on mag. literature shelves for pick up.
... another pioneer sister opens up territories box and signs out territory when assigned MS is missing from meetings.
Why?
Well, it doesn't seem to mean that women are going to be assigned as MS, but it does show how they're sorely needed to get things done and and keep KHs running. But I guess the GB decided it was better to write a KM article encouraging to reach out to convert more men.
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About Rutherford's family
by possible-san inhi, everyone.. if there are those who know about the family of j. f. rutherford, please tell me that information.. was he divorced?.
what happened to his children?.
did they live in beth sarim together?.
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You never see him smile in photos
He looks pretty happy and smiley at that keg party.
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EWOT Has anyone tried this?
by coffee_black inhttp://www.ewot.com/ (excercise with oxygen therapy) sounds interesting... what do you think?
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coffee .
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Sounds like a lot of free range oxidants running amok, giddy up there molecules...
Ok, I'm high on O2, gotta slow down this stationary bike, whew!
