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  Everything seems to be changing... why not birthdays?

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if we look at all doctrines, we see an overall effort to conserve unity and control.

  - assuming most birthdays, if allowed, would probably be oriented to children, then that means 40 celebrations per year.

  so all in all, this give a total potential attendance to a birthday of 30 families (120 attendance / 4 family members).

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  cattails

  Excellent OP. It really is all about the money with the WT. They want it all Paul, all you can give Viv, down to the last penny Lenny, all your icecream money Honey.
  
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  The JW's 2 witness rule applied to Molestation is wrong AND HERE'S WHY

  by wozza in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this is not the first time i've written about this, but with the royal commission happening here in australia, and having fought against the wts on this problem of molestation in the wts over a period of 15 years i feel a need to explain what i found which contradicts what the wts says and the way they handle cases within their society.. i am not going to give the history of my involvement but just state simply why no-one can believe what the wts says ,and we all know the scriptures they use to not handle cases of molestation properly , so here goes , it's not tricky or hard to understand i think, but just use the bible against them (hope this is used at the commission).. i,m using the revised berkely version in plain english here ,.

  the context is law giving in the book of deuteronomy ch 22 : vs 22 - 27. vs 22 "when a man is surprised abed with a married woman,they shall both die ,the man who lay with the woman and the woman too; you shall wipe out the evil from israel.".

  so this is easy to grasp ,man sleeps with married woman ,judged to die -they got caught.. next vs 23- 24 "when a man comes upon a girl in the city, who is a virgin betrothed to another , and he lies with her,24 you shall bring them both to the gate of the city and stone them to death, the girl because she did not cry out, although the city was all about her, and the man because he violated his neighbour's wife.

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  But if the girl isn't 'betrothed' and she's just a child like in many abuse cases then field or no field today we know this is just abuse of another human being especially those who cannot defend themselves adequately.

  Vs28-29 This shows that if the girl is not betrothed but is forced into sex she has to marry him and pay her father 50 silver coins (crazy huh?)

  Crazy, definitely. What I can't fathom is how a girl of marriageable age would be expected to marry her rapist?
  
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  The Jehovah's Witnesses, the Royal Commission and the Catholic Church

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  a catholic forum has a discussion thread: "jehovah witness now appear with the royal commission".. i have made the comment before that dr. applewhite's appearance in support of the jws is not surprising if you consider that the royal commissions' findings will impact the structure of the cathoilc church as well.

  the catholic church has a vested interest in the jws' hearing - if the jws are forced to change their organizational structure, so will the catholics.. the following post is an excellent discussion on the similarities and differences between the catholic church and the jws structure.

  http://www.catholica.com.au/forum/index.php?id=174461.

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  It's very uncanny how both religions are so similary structured. Doesn't the Jesuit Order actually use the name Governing Body in their organization?

  If the latest rant from the GB against Protestants is any indication I think the Jehovah's Witnesses are warming up to the Catholics. After all they're both very patriarchal and very centrally controlled, Overseers are Bishops, Elders are like priests and Ministerial Servants like deacons. I guess that makes the GB a bunch of cardinals or Popes.
  
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  Sorry..FASCINATING LETT (take 2)

  by Diogenesister in

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  2. humour

  http://chrisfugue.tumblr.com/ weirdly fascinating lett take 2 (sorry for 1st error)

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  cattails

  Bonsai: "I can totally understand why Brokeback imagined what he did."

  I can totally imagine BrokebackWatchtower being one of those filthy minded appointed men!
  
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  How strange that God's organisation needs tob eg for money

  by Half banana in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i would say that if god or jehovah or any other named or nameless god needs money then he/she/it is not much of a god.

  as a poor jw pioneer i scraped by as a way of life serving a god i could not know, see or sense in any way but i swallowed the biblical dogma and recalled that the birds of the air neither toiled nor sowed but were provided for.. so for goodness sake...why is the jw org so concerned with keeping, promoting or downright snatching as much money as they can from the sheep?.

  is it a sign that jehovah has disinherited them?

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  Whatever happened to their saying they wouldn't ask for money but if God didn't support and bless them with enough money to keep going it was time to call it quits!?
  
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  Sorry..FASCINATING LETT (take 2)

  by Diogenesister in

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  2. humour

  http://chrisfugue.tumblr.com/ weirdly fascinating lett take 2 (sorry for 1st error)

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  Hey BrokebackWatchtower with a dirty mind like that, were you one of those pedophile hiding appointed men, or were you one of them?
  
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  Royal Commission convened for now, but Jackson is an asshole

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i have just finished listening to this man jackson.

  i remember him well.

  he is twisting things around as much as he is allowed.

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  That Jackson guy does sound like a smug a-hole. That's what this religion does, it rewards people like that with positions of authority!
  
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  Cossacks attack, throw stones at Jehovahs Witnesses in RC while local police watched

  by oppostate in

  1. social
  2. current

  07/23/2015russiacossacks attack, throw stones at jehovah's witnessesby nina achmatova.

  http://www.asianews.it/news-en/cossacks-attack,-throw-stones-at-jehovahs-witnesses-34845.html.

  jehovah's witnesses were meeting in congress on 10-12 july in krymsk, krasnodar region.

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  That's just awful! Worse I've got this picture in my head of these guys dressed in Czarist Russian attire doing knee squats and throwing stones, and doing drive-by stone throwing while riding a horse on its side, bunch of uncivilized Cossacks!

  
  
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  Yet more trolley (in)activity

  by konceptual99 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am currently having to spend a little time waiting for an appointment in the vicinity of a central london station.

  whilst waiting i am catching up on some work in a cafe.

  i can see a couple of trolleys and have been watching them for around an hour now.. not one person has stopped to take literature.

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  cattails

  The cart witnessing is quite the farce!

  I was asked to do it and I turned it down. Due to extended womanly complications of our frail nature, you understand.
  

  Then, there's this past middle-age sister who is quite obese but is a dynamo at the door to door work. She's funny, she cares a lot about people and she'll talk about the Bible with anybody. I'm sure she gets way more return visits and placements than everybody else at the Hall. Well, they didn't ask her to man the cart. When she asked, and said she'd like to take the cart out too, they told her that they had a full schedule already and since there's been a lot of interest, the list was full for the next three months, but if she continued auxiliaring they'd keep her in mind when they make the new schedule.

  Mind you I hardly ever go out in service any more. Several other sisters were asked if they wanted to do cart witnessing. Their service records are probably not even close to this other sister. The only difference I could see is we are not overweight and she is. What a bunch of losers they are pulling this crap! I'm glad I'm out of that congregation.
  
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  Band Green Day and JWs

  by hardtobeme in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  a few years ago i heard of a story about two jw's being at a green day concert.

  i think that the witnesses were bethelites.

  the person that told me that story said that the band was about to play but they couldn't.

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  I'm so sick of this rumor. It keeps going around and around, and it's like the old kids game of telephone, where something changes and you've got a different artist and a different religion being picked on. It's such a bunch of garbage.