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Barbara Anderson on conference call right now!
by koolaid-man insat oct.1-2011 8pm edt.
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Barbara Anderson on conference call right now!
by koolaid-man insat oct.1-2011 8pm edt.
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dial 712-432-8710 when asked for pin use 9925. .
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koolaid-man
Sat Oct.1-2011 8pm edt.
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Police inquiry over Jehovah's Witness magazine 'mentally diseased' article
by koolaid-man inhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/8791196/police-inquiry-over-jehovahs-witness-magazine-mentally-diseased-article.html.
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police inquiry over jehovah's witness magazine 'mentally diseased' articlean official magazine for jehovah's witnesses that described those who leave the church as "mentally diseased" is at the centre of a police inquiry, it has emerged.the watchtower is the official magazine of jehovah's witnesses photo: alamy9:58am bst 27 sep 2011. detectives are investigating whether the article, published in julys edition of the watchtower, is in breach of britains religious hatred laws.. the article, published in the magazine which is distributed by jehovah's witnesses across the globe, reportedly warned followers to avoid "false teachers" which it condemned as being "mentally diseased".. "suppose that a doctor told you to avoid contact with someone who is infected with a contagious, deadly disease," part of the article stated.. "you would know what the doctor means, and you would strictly heed his warning.
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koolaid-man
Friday 30 September 2011
Police inquiry over Jehovah's Witness magazine 'mentally diseased' article
An official magazine for Jehovah's Witnesses that described those who leave the church as "mentally diseased" is at the centre of a police inquiry, it has emerged.
The Watchtower is the official magazine of Jehovah's Witnesses Photo: ALAMY 9:58AM BST 27 Sep 2011
Detectives are investigating whether the article, published in July’s edition of The Watchtower, is in breach of Britain’s religious hatred laws.
The article, published in the magazine which is distributed by Jehovah's Witnesses across the globe, reportedly warned followers to avoid "false teachers" which it condemned as being "mentally diseased".
"Suppose that a doctor told you to avoid contact with someone who is infected with a contagious, deadly disease," part of the article stated.
"You would know what the doctor means, and you would strictly heed his warning. Well, apostates are 'mentally diseased', and they seek to infect others with their disloyal teachings."
A group of former Witnesses, based in Portsmouth, have made an official complaint to Hampshire Police about the article. Police have launched an investigation.
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They are considering whether to complain to the Charity Commission. The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Britain, which prints church doctrine in Britain, is a registered charity.
The church is known for handing down harsh punishments to followers who criticise doctrines or raise questions about the faith.
Angus Robertson, a former Witness "elder" from an undisclosed town in Hampshire, who was present at the meeting with police, told The Independent: "The way scripture is being used to bully people must be challenged.
“If a religion was preaching that blacks or gays were mentally diseased there would understandable outrage."
But Rick Fenton, a church spokesman, defended the passages, saying ostracisation was "a personal matter for each individual to decide for himself".
"Any one of Jehovah's Witnesses is free to express their feelings and to ask questions," he said. "If a person changes their mind about Bible-based teachings they once held dear, we recognise their right to leave."
A Hampshire police spokesman was unavailable for comment.
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A life of mental illness ends in violence.
by koolaid-man inhttp://www.concordmonitor.com/article/282059/life-of-mental-illness-ends-in-violence?csauthresp=1317045871%3a5dma6uqf4gb51ccvnpdbjnt710%3acsuserid|csgroupid%3aapproved%3aa955edbf7d0543430de7104e3c2115c3&csuserid=94&csgroupid=1.
desperate acts, violent endingsa life of mental illness ends in violencerelatives say woman had psychiatric issuesphoto by alexander cohn / monitor stafffamily photos of shelly naroian fill a board thursday, september 22, 2011. naroian was killed during a stand-off with hillsboro police in may.purchase photo reprints at photoextra by annmarie timmins and maddie hanna / monitor staffseptember 26, 2011share thisemailcomments (2)print3photo by alexander cohn / monitor staffa hole where the bullet that killed shelly naroian last may can still be seen in the wall of the family's hillsboro home; thursday, september 22, 2011.purchase photo reprints at photoextra four months later, jim naroian still displays the condolence cards that arrived after his wife, shelly, was killed by a police officer's bullet in the living room of their hillsboro home.
the cards reassure jim his wife isn't forgotten.
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koolaid-man
Thetrueone I am just reporting..... you decide. If you have a problem with this post talk to your elders about it maybe they can help.
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A life of mental illness ends in violence.
by koolaid-man inhttp://www.concordmonitor.com/article/282059/life-of-mental-illness-ends-in-violence?csauthresp=1317045871%3a5dma6uqf4gb51ccvnpdbjnt710%3acsuserid|csgroupid%3aapproved%3aa955edbf7d0543430de7104e3c2115c3&csuserid=94&csgroupid=1.
desperate acts, violent endingsa life of mental illness ends in violencerelatives say woman had psychiatric issuesphoto by alexander cohn / monitor stafffamily photos of shelly naroian fill a board thursday, september 22, 2011. naroian was killed during a stand-off with hillsboro police in may.purchase photo reprints at photoextra by annmarie timmins and maddie hanna / monitor staffseptember 26, 2011share thisemailcomments (2)print3photo by alexander cohn / monitor staffa hole where the bullet that killed shelly naroian last may can still be seen in the wall of the family's hillsboro home; thursday, september 22, 2011.purchase photo reprints at photoextra four months later, jim naroian still displays the condolence cards that arrived after his wife, shelly, was killed by a police officer's bullet in the living room of their hillsboro home.
the cards reassure jim his wife isn't forgotten.
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If the story does not raise an eyebrow move on and ignore it........ just keep going to the meetings and forget it. -
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A life of mental illness ends in violence.
by koolaid-man inhttp://www.concordmonitor.com/article/282059/life-of-mental-illness-ends-in-violence?csauthresp=1317045871%3a5dma6uqf4gb51ccvnpdbjnt710%3acsuserid|csgroupid%3aapproved%3aa955edbf7d0543430de7104e3c2115c3&csuserid=94&csgroupid=1.
desperate acts, violent endingsa life of mental illness ends in violencerelatives say woman had psychiatric issuesphoto by alexander cohn / monitor stafffamily photos of shelly naroian fill a board thursday, september 22, 2011. naroian was killed during a stand-off with hillsboro police in may.purchase photo reprints at photoextra by annmarie timmins and maddie hanna / monitor staffseptember 26, 2011share thisemailcomments (2)print3photo by alexander cohn / monitor staffa hole where the bullet that killed shelly naroian last may can still be seen in the wall of the family's hillsboro home; thursday, september 22, 2011.purchase photo reprints at photoextra four months later, jim naroian still displays the condolence cards that arrived after his wife, shelly, was killed by a police officer's bullet in the living room of their hillsboro home.
the cards reassure jim his wife isn't forgotten.
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DESPERATE ACTS, VIOLENT ENDINGSA life of mental illness ends in violence
Relatives say woman had psychiatric issues
Photo by Alexander Cohn / Monitor staff Family photos of Shelly Naroian fill a board Thursday, September 22, 2011. Naroian was killed during a stand-off with Hillsboro police in May.Purchase photo reprints at PhotoExtra » By Annmarie Timmins and Maddie Hanna / Monitor staff September 26, 2011 SHARE THIS
Photo by Alexander Cohn / Monitor staff A hole where the bullet that killed Shelly Naroian last May can still be seen in the wall of the family's Hillsboro home; Thursday, September 22, 2011.Purchase photo reprints at PhotoExtra »Four months later, Jim Naroian still displays the condolence cards that arrived after his wife, Shelly, was killed by a police officer's bullet in the living room of their Hillsboro home. The cards reassure Jim his wife isn't forgotten. But they've done little to assuage his guilt and anger.
Jim is the one who called the police to the couple's Sleeper Road home on May 19, after his wife woke him around midnight with a gun to her head and this question: Is this a good one to use?
This wasn't Shelly's first suicidal episode. There had been many, according to family members, and she had been hospitalized twice for psychiatric problems, most recently around Christmas. But this was behavior that Jim, 61, didn't think he could handle himself.
Shelly was angry about a few things that night: She wanted Jim to evict his 42-year-old son by his first marriage, who'd been living with them for 10 months. She was furious that Jim had threatened divorce, which would have jeopardized her standing with her Jehovah's Witness church. The complaints were familiar but this time Shelly also told Jim she had found the keys to his gun safe.
With his wife watching him, Jim called 911. In a recent interview, he said he had hoped the police could do what he couldn't - calm his wife and disarm her before she hurt herself.
"I was thinking to myself she finally is going to get some help," he said. "This time she is going to go to a mental ward she can't get out of until she is well."
An hour later, Shelly was dead, not by her own hand but by a bullet fired by Hillsboro police Sgt. Mark Philibert. She was shot after threatening to kill Jim's 42-year-old son, Ken Naroian, and then aiming a gun at Philibert. She died on her 47th birthday.
According to an investigation by the state attorney general's office, Philibert had tried to coax Shelly out of the house unarmed by assuring her the police were there to help, not hurt her. The attorney general's report said Philibert had been patient - until he heard a shot fired from inside the house.
When Philibert stepped through the front door, time had run out. Shelly was sitting 10 to 12 feet away on a sofa with a revolver aimed at Philibert, the report said. Jim was in the bathroom, on the phone with the 911 dispatcher, when his wife and Philibert came face to face. He ran out just before his wife was shot.
According to the report, a police officer's commands - "Show me your hands, show me your hands, show me your hands! . . . Drop it, drop the gun, drop it, drop it!" - can be heard in a recording of the 911 call. The sound of Philibert's gunshot follow. Then Jim can be heard crying.
Jim said he doesn't remember the police negotiating with his wife or telling her to drop the gun. But according to the attorney general's report, he had told the 911 dispatcher he could hear that his wife wasn't cooperating with the police. Nor would Jim have believed that he had been on the phone with the dispatcher for 59 minutes had the report not said so.
The state attorney general's office concluded that Philibert was legally justified in shooting Shelly because he reasonably believed she was about to kill him. Jim has come to a different conclusion.
"I believe this was a real mess by untrained police officers who didn't seem like they had a leader," he said. "They didn't seem like they ever knew what they were doing. I have no faith in the legal system anymore. I will never call 911 again."
Life without peace
Jim Naroian met Shelly Stilson 28 years ago at a Seabrook restaurant. He was on his way to work at the nuclear power station. She was 19, alone and looking distressed. "She'd been out with her friends, and they all had left," Jim said. "I said, 'You don't know me from anyone, but I'll give you a ride home.' "
The detour made Jim late for work, but the two exchanged phone numbers. He was divorced with a son. She was single. They began dating, and Shelly eventually moved in with Jim, into the log home he had built in Sandown. They were wed in 1988 - it was his fourth marriage - and together they had two children, Sarah, 23, and Peter, 18. (next page »)
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What was your favorite convention beverage?
by i_drank_the_wine inthere's so many good choices, i can barely pick!.
dart?.
shasta cola?.
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koolaid-man
Remember Shasta...... The official drink of Jehovah's Witnesses.
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So who is going to do some kind of protest next Sunday?
by serenitynow! innext sunday is the discussion of the 7/15/2011 wt article about shunning.
i am planning to stand outside of a kh on a major street with a big banner that says that the jws do indeed destroy families with their shunning policy.
i will have many copies of the article that will be discussed that day.. anyone else have any plans?.
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Protesting works......... Watch video for proof. -
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So who is going to do some kind of protest next Sunday?
by serenitynow! innext sunday is the discussion of the 7/15/2011 wt article about shunning.
i am planning to stand outside of a kh on a major street with a big banner that says that the jws do indeed destroy families with their shunning policy.
i will have many copies of the article that will be discussed that day.. anyone else have any plans?.
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koolaid-man
Go protest...... What happens when you do nothing......... Nothing!
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Business of 18.8 millions of dollars - Brooklynn
by TJ Curioso inyeah.
this week-end will be put on sale a few buildings belonging to the watchtower in the area of ?
?brooklynn, valued at 18.8 million dollars.. .
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Keep up the good work TJ
Watchtower Finally Ready for Its Great Brooklyn Heights Sell-Off
Friday, September 16, 2011, by Sara PolskyThe Jehovah's Witnesses are making a slow exodus from Brooklyn for larger pastures in Warwick, New York (and possibly saving Brooklyn Bridge Park from more condos in the process). They've been waiting out the downturn before putting their smaller Brooklyn Heights properties on the market, but the Jehovah's Witnesses seem to feel more secure about the state of real estate sales these days: five of those properties will hit the market this weekend, following three multi-family buildings that hit the market several weeks ago.The two townhouses, two brownstones, and one carriage house (right) will have a combined ask of 18.8 million, according to the Times. The carriage house, two apartments with a four-car garage, is on Columbia Heights; the townhouses are on Orange and Willow streets; and the brownstones are on Willow and Remsen streets. Anyone buying?
BROOKLYN HEIGHTS BROOKLYN EXODUS JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ON THE MARKET 4 COMMENTS RELATED LINKS
· Big Deal: Jehovah's Witnesses List Prime Properties [NYT]
· Watchtower coverage [Curbed]
The Watchtower is the official magazine of Jehovah's Witnesses Photo: ALAMY 
The Jehovah's Witnesses are making a slow exodus from Brooklyn for larger pastures in Warwick, New York (and possibly 
