Will they allow visitors to use the weight room, swim in the pools, and play tennis? That's just as good as an amusement park isn't it?
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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"
by breakfast of champions inthis is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.
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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"
by breakfast of champions inthis is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.
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I'm good. I was there for 3 days soon after Patterson opened up.
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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"
by breakfast of champions inthis is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.
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Remember - protection for the group but not for the individual. There are countless collateral dead from the concentration camps in Germany whose death is testamant to this fact.
Also, when I'm involved in a hobby, it makes me thankful to be alive and most appreciative of a wonderful creator who allowed me to exist and enjoy myself. Counter that to when I'm getting doors slammed in my face and I have to take my pills to keep from feeling suicidal.
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If THAT is Paradise, count me bored....
by bafh ini happened to attend a session of the summer convention on sunday morning.
one thing that that struck me was how their view of paradise was that we would all be the same.
they kept talking about how nice it would be if we all spoke the same language.
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This has been one of my concerns for a long time. I realized a world full of Witnesses would almost be a fate worse than death. I just have never gotten along that well with any JWs. They always have judged me, pushed me to do things I was uncomfortable doing, labeled me spiritually weak, and when I would share with them things I was interested in, I'd get told things like, "We will just have to wait and see in the new system." Even my frequent computer use at one time was shunned. It actually makes me angry when I go to a meeting and see everyone with tablets, ipads, smart phones, kindles, etc. It's not the same religion I grew up in and the emotional turmoil I struggle with comes to the fore. I shake so bad I need to take a sedative and my doctor doesn't understand why I keep going if I'm affected this badly. It's hard to explain and he tells me not to go if I get this worked up.
When you suffer through a "current understanding" only to find out later there was nothing wrong with it in the first place and now everyone is doing it and can do it, you are left feeling like, "What in the heck did I endure all those years of emotional abuse and turmoil for when there was nothing wrong with it the first place?"
I go, but only once in a great while, because I have a streak of fear and guilt aftewards that lasts about 4 days before I feel normal again. It's the strangest thing I've ever experienced. Even my wife says she can't deal with me for 4 days afterwards and she is drained trying to bring me back around to my old self. It's something severely psychological, but I can't quite put a finger on it. It's really weird and I don't understand why it seems I'm afflicted with this and others aren't...or they are but they don't tell anyone.
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JW on blue background,--- help!
by prologos inworking on he house i was stunned to see jw on a blue background that had peeled off the new windows.
cant link, but google "jw windows logo" to see it .
free unvolontary visual display for the org in new window installations.
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Yeah I've seen this. It's the Jeld-Wen company that makes windows and doors and that indeed is their logo. See below:
http://supremealuminumllc.com/images/Window%20Manufacturer%20Logos/JeldWenLogo.jpg
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How to Knock Nazi Elders off their high horse
by suavojr inthe borg has many inconsistencies, when the topic is helping humble and honest people achieve their full potential.
consider a working man who works 40 to 60 hours a week and still manages to show up to all the meetings, participate, do all of his assigned work within the kh, but his ministry has slipped to 8 hours per month.
this same man is working hard to move up within the ranks only to get shut down without even knowing.. .
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Sorry for the double blank posting - something got clicked outside my browser window and weird things started happening.
>I could tell you a million stories, and I am sorry this is so long.
No, no please go right on ahead. It wasn't long at all and we'd all love to hear your stories of how you combatted the Nazi elders...
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How to Knock Nazi Elders off their high horse
by suavojr inthe borg has many inconsistencies, when the topic is helping humble and honest people achieve their full potential.
consider a working man who works 40 to 60 hours a week and still manages to show up to all the meetings, participate, do all of his assigned work within the kh, but his ministry has slipped to 8 hours per month.
this same man is working hard to move up within the ranks only to get shut down without even knowing.. .
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How to Knock Nazi Elders off their high horse
by suavojr inthe borg has many inconsistencies, when the topic is helping humble and honest people achieve their full potential.
consider a working man who works 40 to 60 hours a week and still manages to show up to all the meetings, participate, do all of his assigned work within the kh, but his ministry has slipped to 8 hours per month.
this same man is working hard to move up within the ranks only to get shut down without even knowing.. .
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I've been stumbled.
by silent ini just realized that all these dates that the borg have said the end would come on or by and then it didn't happen, have stumbled me.
why such a fascination and trying to divine the answer from scripture when scripture plainly says only the father knows the day and the hour?
by their predictions, they actually sent many christians on the path of date-based worship insted of faith-based worship.. if they have stumbled me, then who is reponsible for that?.
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Thanks for your comments everyone. It's amazing how many different views you can have over such a simple statement such as, "I've been stumbled." Isn't it amazing that if you, personally, stumble someone then woe is you! What a horrible mistake you've made, etc., but let WBTS do something that stumbles people (like date setting) and it's all justified as the light getting brighter aka nu-light and those who may have been stumbled are to blame.
It never ceases to amazing how they have the attitude that they can do no wrong and they never ever apologize to the rank and file for their errors. It's always under the guise of nu-light or justified that they understood it that way at the time. If they can use those rationalizations, then the rank and file can too. How long do you think the statement, "I received a blood transfusion because I understand Acts 15:28,29 differently now then I did back then." would fly? It was personal new light that was handed down to you as an answer to a prayer.
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I've been stumbled.
by silent ini just realized that all these dates that the borg have said the end would come on or by and then it didn't happen, have stumbled me.
why such a fascination and trying to divine the answer from scripture when scripture plainly says only the father knows the day and the hour?
by their predictions, they actually sent many christians on the path of date-based worship insted of faith-based worship.. if they have stumbled me, then who is reponsible for that?.
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I just realized that all these dates that the bOrg have said the end would come on or by and then it didn't happen, have stumbled me. Why such a fascination and trying to divine the answer from scripture when scripture plainly says only the Father knows the day and the hour? By their predictions, they actually sent many Christians on the path of date-based worship insted of faith-based worship.
If they have stumbled me, then who is reponsible for that?
