i thought jesus called those who fell away lost sheep...but then again, remember, its never about those who have left, its about scaring those who remain, to stay......ah!
warmasasunned
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New name for those who have left?
by dogisgod inhey guys, havent been here for a while but have you heard that the society is now calling those who leave "the walking dead"?
i just heard this acouple of days ago but since my mom died i don't have a direct conduit anymore.
sorry if this has already been discussed.
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Why did you leave the org?
by A-Team inwere you dfed, did you find out some lies about the org?.
what was the last straw?
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warmasasunned
i left in jan 92, i left because i was unhappy, since then everything as fell into place jw`s are just like any other religion, granted they are more extreme in there views, but just a religion.
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What Bored You The Most As A JW?
by minimus ini got very bored while i was a witness.. the meetings were so boring!!!.
jws are supposed to be "busy" in the lord's work.
if you're busy, you shouldn't be bored, right?
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warmasasunned
i was working recently on a roof, and from that vantage point could see the jw`s walking up the road.my work mate not a x jw said:
"why do they walk so slow"
"thats called the witness walk,walking as slowly as you can to burn up as much time as possible,because your so sick of doing what your doing"
that was the most boring thing of all for me, oh! and all the meetings pherhaps with the exception of the book group,which was only an hour long. talking about the book group i knew of one xbro who told me that he always made sure he went to the toilet at a book group,so he could go through the dirty washig basket(which some people keep in the bathroom) so he could have a sniff at the womans dirty knickers!!! oh and the bro who asked to use the toilet, and then proceeded to clean his teeth using some poor sods toothbrush.
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"Commenting" at Meetings
by cameo-d ini don't quite understand why you call it commenting.. when i attended meeting the question at end were read.. when people "commented" it was never a real comment.. it was just reading back word for word a sentence or two from the paragraph that answered the question.. i would think "commentary" would be something you put in your own words and give a personal statement about it.. .
why do you call it "comments" when it is more like reciting?.
or is it different in other kh?.
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warmasasunned
i left in late 91, god i remember those awful hour long public talks, then an hours watchtower......brain dead. i always remember the joy of leaving not having to go to meetings anymore, getting up on a sunday morning lazing around in my pjs watching mindless tv.all i really remember about commenting was people having a go at others in the congregation (for example one "bro" commented on how people shouldnt go to the cinema to watch ungodly films like beverly hills cops) many times i could hardly keep my eyes open and that includes when i was reading the bloody watchtower from the platform!!!.
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So, it happened. Packed my things and left
by aligot ripounsous insome may remember, i wrote on an other thread that elders forbade me to give comments at the wt meeting, as i weaken the brothers' faith.
i wasn't satisfied with this outcome and, 10 days ago i sat with my wife on the front part of the kh (like in many khs, attendants pack on the back seats), in the middle of the row, right in front of the wt elder, and raised my hand insistently.
i was of course openly ignored but i didn't care, all that i wanted was verybody to see how they deal with independent members.
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warmasasunned
well done youve got alot of balls
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Where would you go(are you gone)?
by Koiné inhallo,.
i would like to discuss some items in one topic:.
1)most of the people who left jehovah's witnesses also left institutional christianity,i mean they did not join another group (or did they)?.
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warmasasunned
i am ex witness, i was oppossed to "religion" before i became a witness, i thought the witnesses were different i was wrong and very young and idealistic, they are no better or worse than all "religion". as to how i feel now, i dont opposse peoples "religion" or "faith". i now honestly see "religion, faith and god" as a good luck charm, an insurance policy etc. if there is a god, and i dont know the answer to that, he certianly isnt interested in humankind for obvious reasons, or we just dont know how it all works. i suppose i would say i live this life as know its all ive got, but do belive that the human spirit, infact all animal kind is in some way eternal.
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I took the '1914 Generation' prophecy seriously, did you? Do you even remember it?!
by nicolaou ini was born in 1964, 50 years after 1914. even in my teens i was doing the sums.
i had a worse case scenario figured out - if the 1914 generation could apply to babies and even if they lived to be a 120, i would still only be about 70 years old after they'd all died!
i figured i was part of the first wave of 'jehovah's people' that really would live to see the new order - guaranteed!!
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warmasasunned
jack214 nice comment, thats exactly the way i felt, though when i left i still belived in the "truth" as they insist you call it, (we dont brain wash people of course). i just sat there one day an thought all the things i love, football (soccer) the beatles, old tv programmes etc wont be there, im bored to death now, why would i want to live forever in absolute boredom. i was just lucky i wasnt born into it as you were and lots of friends at the time, most have now left. i never felt i had a real friend when i was a jw, yet after not seeing "worldly friends" for over 7 years they allowed me to pick up where i left off. good luck to you and keep posting.
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Lovebombing =Pats on the back for me going back to Meetings...I want to punch someone!!!!
by Witness 007 inafter being away for 3 years i have agreed to attend some meetings with my wife who is suffering depression.
she has no friends except witnesses.
every meeting i get pats.......pats on the back during the damn meeting, elders and servants patting me on the back, mouthing "hello" giving me the thumbs up.....the last elder who did it, i almost stood up and punched him....i invented love bombing and they dare use it on me...me!
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warmasasunned
i always remember my first meeting,(basford nottm) everyone welcomed my wife and myself we were only in our early 20s. we went home to our unbeliving relatives telling them of the wonderful welcome we had recieved and how this was gods people. we didnt tell them about what happened the next time we went and everyone practically ignored us, we went home and cried. if only we had seen it for what it was (love bombing) then we wouldnt have wasted 7 years of our young lives, having said that the x wifes now back in it. i met her one day after not seeing her for a number of years, i think she came over to convert me, when i told her i wouldnt be going back, her eyes just glazed over and she beat an hasty retreat.
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Do You Think The Organization Is Corrupt?
by minimus inmany witnesses regard the organization as their "mother".
whatever "mother" says is what we do.
"mother knows best!".
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warmasasunned
the jws are not corrupt.....yeah right, just like all the other religions, and dont we feel mugs for it, never mind at least we had the guts to walk away ..... or have you.
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I took the '1914 Generation' prophecy seriously, did you? Do you even remember it?!
by nicolaou ini was born in 1964, 50 years after 1914. even in my teens i was doing the sums.
i had a worse case scenario figured out - if the 1914 generation could apply to babies and even if they lived to be a 120, i would still only be about 70 years old after they'd all died!
i figured i was part of the first wave of 'jehovah's people' that really would live to see the new order - guaranteed!!
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warmasasunned
i came into the jws about 84, what appealed to me was that this "religion" had a sell by date. so of course my reasoning was if after so many years all these wonderful things didnt come about, i could walk away. of course things never work out the way you plan, i became a very devoted witness, doing all the spiritual things and really enjoyed it for many years .as the years rolled along, i became very unhappy i had marriage problems, nothing to do with the jws as my then wife was also a jw, i became aware that i wasnt happy, sick of the routine,sick of my marriage...so i left, still beliving that it was as they say not a religion but the "truth". what disturbs me about the "truth" and friends who still are witnesses (though i would never voice this to them for obvious reasons), is that this whole 1914 change completely underminds what jws stood for, now your just a religion like any other, you cant keep changing beliefs, then turn round and say "hey we got it wrong,but we didnt mean any harm, sorry to all of you who based your entire life on it for the last 40 or 50 years". i think everyone who belongs to any "religion" needs to take a good long look at themselves and say why am i doing this, all "religions" and i mean all work on the basis of control, why and for what reason there are many, ask yourself does beliving in "god" mean i need to be controlled, and i aim this at all religion.