Posts by warmasasunned

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How many here have worked in social work, etc. & DON'T think MJ was a molester?

by avishai in

i mean, c'mon, people.

seriously, i admire those who want to think the best.

but the guy had just about every red flag/indicator you can have.

warmasasunned

some very good comments here,

got to say if your ready to point the finger at the jw`s over paying out of court over the silent lambs issue,

then you are an hypocrite if you dont point the finger at jackson.

great entertainer but a very flawed human, would the people who stand up for him be so ready to defend their neighbour, workmate or even relative.

just because he was a great singer dosent mean we should excuse his actions.

just to add a question to all those willing to defend jackson.

"did you ever think you would openly defend a pedophile, and would you, if he wasnt your favorite artist"

double standards i think.

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Is the Downfall of Jehovah's Witnesses More Important Then You?

by AllTimeJeff in

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(on proofreading this, i feel that this is more preachy then i meant it.

so as a disclaimer, i hope you know that if you get that impression, that i didn't mean it that way.

having said that, this is what i feel, so if you relate to this in any way, enjoy.

warmasasunned

jeff do you need a "god" or a "religion" at all? instead of trying to find "god" find yourself... said with respect.

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Is the Downfall of Jehovah's Witnesses More Important Then You?

by AllTimeJeff in

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(on proofreading this, i feel that this is more preachy then i meant it.

so as a disclaimer, i hope you know that if you get that impression, that i didn't mean it that way.

having said that, this is what i feel, so if you relate to this in any way, enjoy.

i look back on my witness days....and just feel it was something i needed to calm me down, i was a youth out of control with no direction, heading for death or prision. so it straightend me out, gave me discipline.

but it was crazy, brain washing...so i`m glad i left. i check this site out to keep in touch with people who have had the same or similiar experience to me. i met a lot of good people in the jw`s but mostly indifferent no marks, with no substance only a head in the sand quality.

sure there are those who are radical on both sides of this site (they may not be so in real life), i have a smile at their comments, because i just let it drift over my head these days, why would god make it all so hard!....do i want to see jw`s fall.....no.

what i dont like to see and hear of is people dragging themselves along to any religion or thing that makes them unhappy...so i would say if your happy its up to you.

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If we had a football team? Who would you have in it?

by Gary_Naysmith in

i'll start.. .

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warmasasunned

justin fasahnu (religious nut job) david hike (ex coventry city goalkeeper who claimed to be jesus)

ERIC CANTONA who is god.....oh and to how american friends its only you who calls it soccer!

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Name Things JWs Believe That Are Not Actually Biblically Provable

by minimus in

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here's one example: being a congregation publisher.

nowhere in the bible does it say you should be a "publisher" and turn in your time if you preach.

they try to twist the scriptures by saying that numbers are constantly being recorded in the bible so then conforming to the rules of being a publisher is from the scriptures.. yeah, right..

warmasasunned

thanks RENIAA for pointing out that jw`s are always right...it must be wonderful to belong to such a wonderful flawless org, and that although the people who make up the congregation are imperfect, the faithful slave is never wrong, it maybe alittle over eager at times, but only because it so despartely wants to see this wicked system of things end. simple question finding "god" or the "truth" shouldnt be about quoteing endless scripture and debating it, it should be simple, because surely "IF" there is a god, dosent he want to be found?.

reading your waffle just makes me so happy that i left the jw`s many years ago, oh and arrmaggedon was just round the corner then....about twenty years ago. look darling get a life, becuase its to short, and most of the people on this site want you to have one.

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Hi I hope i am welcome

by cantleave in

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hi guys and gals,.

i am a hypocryte.

brought up in the "truth" but know its not.

warmasasunned

hello i`ve got to say i think your doing the right thing my friend, there are others and i`m sure from good motives who would try and convince you that you must leave. i feel you will be much better able to have an effect and infulence on things from the inside for your childrens sake. i also want to add a note of caution from your own point of view what will you do when your children have grown up? thats a question for you to answer, will you be happy to continue to put up a pretence, and what if your children remain jw`s. it`s a tough one and my heart felt feelings go out to you, but as we say in england "don`t go at it like a bull at a gate" . let things roll along a bit, time changes things, play it slowly,dont rush your feelings. keep going along making out everythings fine, get stronger, work out your plan, and maybe you can find a good way out of this. good luck

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Regional Identities in the UK - A short guide for Americans

by besty in

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so the uk is divided into 4 separate countries - the big bit called england that has wales on the side and scotland at the top with northern ireland off on its own island.. each country has multiple cultural identities.

broadly speaking (and i generalize) the wealth of england (and the uk generally) is concentrated in london, the 'rust belt' is in the middle namely birmingham and manchester and the north of england tends to be poorer.. scotland - where i'm from - is culturally rich but economically poor.

there is a long-standing argument about how wealthy scotland could have been if it had been able to keep all the north sea oil revenue instead of sending it to london.

warmasasunned

newcastle is on the border of scotland that is why they have such a pronouced accent, although GB is full of very different regional accents, scousers (liverpool, the beatles) mancs (manchester) brummies (birmingham,woverhampton,etc) cockneys (londeners, southern softys)

sadly as as wobble says immigration is diluteing GB, as is television. i come from nottingham which once had a very well known accent with expressions such as "hey up me duck" which are very rarely heard anymore. in fifty years GB will just be a melting pot with no identity.

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..."You Know It`s the Truth!!"...

by OUTLAW in

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...................."you know it`s the truth!!

"..........................how many times have you heard that?............jehovah`s witness you know..know you don`t go to meetings,assemblys or anything else wbt$ related......still they feel the need to tell you "you know it`s the truth!.........................you tell them,you don`t..they insist that you do!

!..you continue to tell them you don`t..............they get pissed and tell you:"deep inside you know it`s really the truth!!

warmasasunned

i normally say "i`m quite happy to wait n see" and smile. they dont seem to like that.

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Protesting and Demonstrating at District Convention

by jabberwock in

has anyone who has attended a district convention this year seen any protestors or demonstrators?.

have you ever protested or demonstrated or maybe even handed out literature at a convention or assembly?

what happened?

warmasasunned

not something i would do, i dont think it helps. when i was a jw someone telling me that i belonged to a cult only confirmed i had the "truth",i was well brain washed like most are. sadly you can only hope people come to their senses, not that i wouldnt state my case if i was asked my opinion.

to be honest i think it shows obsession, you know most people have wasted enough of their lifes being jw`s, now their wasting the rest of it hounding them. i would say to anyone, enjoy your life, state your case to friends and jw`s you may come across on forums like this, but enjoy your life and be happy. hate gets you nowhere.

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I can't take this pain anymore...my life at dead end

by JustHuman14 in

my life has reached to a dead end...i'm stuck and there is no way out.

i was inactive for 6 years and i'm disfellowshiped for the past 3. i would never think that my life would have been in this terrible mess.. .

i wasn't planned to be disfellowshiped by my "wife" turned me in to the elders for apostasy 2 times!!!

warmasasunned

the only advice i offer is from experince, it sounds to me that you are to nice, far more spiritual than the people you are dealing with. when i was in a similiar situation to yourself my x was running rings round me, i was always trying to please, always trying to meet more than half way, and she would just run me down. i got very depressed, wasted, then i realised she was winning and i was starting to look bad in my own eyes and friends and family, my child was worried about me,all this shook me up. i started to stand up for myself, started to say what i would do and what i wouldnt, got a hobbie. i learnt to put things in boxes and leave them there, if she was kicking off, saying you can`t do this, you can`t do that, i would respectfully (never lose your temper) state my case, and not back down. eventually and after much effort they get the message that no matter how often they press those buttons, it won`t work. also your kids will respect your strength, they know right and wrong, if you are fair and respect your wife as i`m sure you do, your kids will see that, and one day they will tell you.

you have along road a head, but decide today, right now, i`m going to be strong for myself and my kids. all the best and all the love in the world to you.

p.s i have a great realationship with my child.