well, i was told that a married lesbian that i know of has been studying with jw for several years.
i was shocked to see the teacher(i know that sister too) and the student pictured together on facebook.
they were smiling big time.
Thanku for taking the time to provide your feedback!!!You hold yourself up to ridiculuos !!!ha ha
But I give you my advice - you needn't have introduce yourself !!ha ha !We know everything about you !
By the way, it is not my falt that I'm not homosexualist
well, i was told that a married lesbian that i know of has been studying with jw for several years.
i was shocked to see the teacher(i know that sister too) and the student pictured together on facebook.
they were smiling big time.
GromitSK ,
I see that you don't understand simple things!
But what is the most ineresting is that you like telling bad things about others exactly the same others telling about you!!!
Gromit ,you know,you have very difficult problem with yourself and you can't resolve it.But you must also know(as I say before) that it is not my falt!!!!!!.No one can help you.You must help yourself!!! Sorry!!!
You like fighting aggressively anyone attacking your bad behaviour{you are a kind of person who tells wicked lies about others} and in the same time , your comments make no sens ,unfortunately.You want to say one thing and then (as a result) you show another.It look to me that you have a serious disorder of character.It is typikal for people like you.You become obsessed with everything touch you.And all of this because you fight aggressively and nothing else seems to matter.I see I've touched the spot !!!But ,by the way ,I partly understand why it is- Homosexualists are literally marginalized and you'd simply like to feel better(here).And because of this I forgive you.You really are a very poor person.
So I give You a piece of advice - stop posting your aggressive comments and everything will be OK !!!
And I hope that many lesbians and homosexualists are different than people like you.You should allowed others to read The Bible and avoid aggressivenessIt harms you
well, i was told that a married lesbian that i know of has been studying with jw for several years.
i was shocked to see the teacher(i know that sister too) and the student pictured together on facebook.
they were smiling big time.
mouthy ,You are obsessed by JWs ,unfortunately!!!It's make me laugh !!! everyone who is interested in The Bible can only be JW!!!Ridiculous!!!really!!Your and your friends' behaviour make me think about JW's religion
well, i was told that a married lesbian that i know of has been studying with jw for several years.
i was shocked to see the teacher(i know that sister too) and the student pictured together on facebook.
they were smiling big time.
GromitSK ,no wonder that people like you have a very big problem in a normal society.
You want people to treat you as normal men but they don't ,which make you furious .But it is not my fault that they show you no respect.I think that you very poor people.You want to force anyone to think like you !!! But it is quite impossible!It is so funny !!!
And I must also say that you have very big tendencies (and people like you ) to say about yourself being completely unaware of this ,ha ha.
But don't worry !!I know about it .You needen't have done it !You are ignorant ,really !!And I would say even more -you are laughed at !!!But I don't mind you !! I laugh myself into convulsion
And, by the way, I wish the lesbian to read The Bible
well, i was told that a married lesbian that i know of has been studying with jw for several years.
i was shocked to see the teacher(i know that sister too) and the student pictured together on facebook.
they were smiling big time.
mouthy ,No one is perfect as you know.And I wouldn't say that what I do is all perfect,of course. And whatever I did before, it is important that I stop doing it now.And that's all.Isayah ,1:18 says:
"Come,now You people,and let us set matters straight between all us",says God."Though the sins of you people should prove to be as scarlet, they will be made white just like snow;though they should be red like crimson cloth,they will become even like wool.
So I love God because He gives everyone the same right,the same possibility to stop doing wrong and live forever.And of course I must fight with my own tendencies to do wrong.It is true it is easy to say but not easy to do because our bad tendencies are very strong. But I know that whatever difficulties I may have to put up with, I remember that God,my best fried is always to support me. You say:
Polin!!!your right the Bible does speak against homosexuality BUt it also taks against lying,stealing,.......
And yes,you are right God requires of us not only to avoid homosexual desires but also things,you mentioned, such as: lying, stealing,immorality, murder and so on.And in such points I must agree with JWs although I don't want to
well, i was told that a married lesbian that i know of has been studying with jw for several years.
i was shocked to see the teacher(i know that sister too) and the student pictured together on facebook.
they were smiling big time.
AlltimeJeft ,I see that you like insulting people when you haven't got euough arguments to confirm your own ideas.It is typical for peple like you.For people who haven't got euough strong personality.But it is not my fault as I say before.In my opinion whatever you say you have a right to do it.But your words explicitly reveal your attitude toward God ,life ,people and in the and your personality and who are you .You haven't got enough knowledge and so you put different people together into the same group( and it is supprise that you demand some things from others that you don't want to do youself)
Just like some homosexual's "change" ,so do people who feel that homosexuality is sinful
You've forgotten that people are divided into various groups( and no matter if you want it or not)You should differ between what can be and what must be.
Next you say:
People who are born homosexual or not to me sounds like a semantics argument about words.I am not talking about kids or babies ,but when people become teens and start to experience their sexuality in large spurts for the first time
It's reveals that you not aware what you say.Such arguments confirm that you are kept in complete ignorance of what you want to prove .Some simple things one should know about (from discussion ,for example as a first point) I very well know that inborn features not necessarily have to reveal when one was born. And they ( like hight intelligence ,for example may be revealed in some circumstances in later time) consist of a programme which is constant for each one during one's all life.So no one can change it.So next time you should "carefully listen to what I say"
You say:
Even science?Really? Can you provide one study that shows this?
You should know what science says about this .Many scientists insist that there is God ,especially physicists.Some of them who praise the beauty and design in nature give credit to God.We are surrounded by evidence of a Creator.The sheer number of stars fills us with awe.And all there heavenly bodies more through space ,not aimlessly ,but according to precise phisical laws.Significantly ,many scientists say that the universe had a sudden beginnig ,the universe that began seems to demand a first cause .God's productions ,including the animal creation ,bespeak His wisdom.And of course physics along with psychology and biology confirm existence of God.And in the end The Bible (itself) as a great masterpiece, a great work gives such evidences.Psychologists some provide researches on what kind of things(features) do people inherit from nature.These science methods try to examine human nature,which reveals many inborn features that Gog gives us.
Uh,no.However,if you can help me to ask God about this ,I will be happy to listen to his answer
Don't worry, I'm not affected by your ironical words ,unfortunately,but I hope you are aware enough what the Biblical accounts reveal in many parts of The Bible.So you can read it himself.But of course if you really want I can help you in that.Romans 1:27 says:
and likewise even the males left the natural use of the female and became violently inflamed in their lust toward one another ,males with males,working what is obscene and receiving in themselves the full recompense ,which was due for their error
By the way,Freddie Mercury ,who was very well known as a homosexualist before his death deeply regretted being one of the homosexualists .He could have spent his life with his girl-friend,Marry.
So you can say what you want .I'm not going to change what I say before.And I see that what you say about me you say, in fact ,about yourself(according to one of the psychological research)You say:
No,you are ignorant.I am sorry,that isn't meant...
And I say even more - you are ignorant of yourself, ignorant of your own fanaticism.I say once more that no one can change his or her natural sexuality given by God.So I wish you and all like you to study The Bible not necessarily with JWs as the lesbian who has been studying for several years now
well, i was told that a married lesbian that i know of has been studying with jw for several years.
i was shocked to see the teacher(i know that sister too) and the student pictured together on facebook.
they were smiling big time.
AllTimeJeft ,first of al ,I never say anything that hurt anyone.And as I say before ,I hate homosexualism but by no means people. who practice such relationship.According to this topic I want to say that everyone can change his or her life-style including the lesbian who has been studying with JWS for long time
you have strong feelings about homosexuality because of the influence of The Bible
No one is in a possition to change the Biblical point of view including myself.So if anyone disagree what I've presented,he or she must ask God because only God is the author of The Bible. I can't understand why some people start to be angree because the lesbian has been studying The Bible? I love people from all nation and it is not my business to judge people and even God doesn't want we to do it.And of course I never ignorant anyone. Only you or some people like you say that.And so, it is not true what you say about me.
However the medieval view you promote about homosexuality,hurts many people
You mistake two different things,unfortunately.But it's not my fault.I know some people who were homosexualists but change their life-style ,really. So I can say that such a change is possible to do.And I still say that no one was born as a homosexualist.And even science confirms this.
And of course it is not my falt that many families don't approval religious leaders who are homosexualists and who rape children.These men were not born as a paedophiles .So no wonder that most people hate homosexualism.And that's all
well, i was told that a married lesbian that i know of has been studying with jw for several years.
i was shocked to see the teacher(i know that sister too) and the student pictured together on facebook.
they were smiling big time.
Morbidzbaby , Not only can't anyone choose to be heterosexual or homosexual but also can do nothing in this matter .This means that no one can change nature ,genes.God didin't create homosexualists or lesbians ,as I say before , so no one can change his/herself sexuality.God made only perfect heterosexual mankind.So no one can change his original programme but of course he or she can change his/her life-style.And we know ,as I say before,,that many people have become homosexualists.The same happened in ancient times{Sadom and Gomorrah }But of course we do know that such people can abandon immoral way of life for various reasons.And many have done so. So it is possible to change one's life-style .And We can observe some people who can practice ,in the same time, a homosexual and heterosexual life-style{because they want}They want to experience something new ,new form of sex to break some kind of rutine one and so on.There are many other reasons people do such things.And of course since everyone can abandon such immoral life-style so the lesbians ,mentioned before ,who has been studying for several years with JWs can do the same.
As we very well know, the world places great emphasis on sex life .And ,as I mentioned,many people practice homosexuality and other new form of sex for many reasons ,such as ,for example ,curiosity,experience something new and so on.We can also consider an example from the past when demons as a first wanted to have intercourses with women and they bore to them.The Bible says that the sons of God began to notice the daughters of men.Those angels went taking wives for themselves.And in such way they broke God's law,in the same way as homosexualists do.And we must also say that everything :people, animals, earth and so on that God made was perfect.God created earth for perfect heterosexual mankind .The design of living things is that scientiests often seek to mimic it.But try as he will,man cannot truly duplicate that perfect originals found in nature.We can also say that living things have done everything we want to do ,without poluting the planet or mortgaging their future.We can say wisdom in it. Similar heterosexualists are a God's perfect product .And obviously homosexualists are product of people's lust .So we see that homosexualism is not design by God and obviosly it is not natural.It is only one of human life-tyle.And this bad life-style in some way is similar to poluting our planet or think like this. A man wants to be almighty like God but he doesn't have ability to do that.
So I even quite agree with you in that what you say:
Human sexuality is an inborn trait.
Yes, it is true because Gode made only heterosexual people to have children and be happy.
well, i was told that a married lesbian that i know of has been studying with jw for several years.
i was shocked to see the teacher(i know that sister too) and the student pictured together on facebook.
they were smiling big time.
Morbidzbaby , although i didin't have contact JW for many years i must say that they are not wrong in each case,for example like this.To be honest i wouldn't say that i like JWS very much but i 'm interested in the Bible .It tells us that God made man and woman and He purposed for sexual desires to be fulfilled only between them So it is no surprise that God condemns any homosexual behaviours.And , of course, there is the only One ,this means God who knows our human makeup better than anyone else( because He is our Creator.)And of course homosexuality is not rooted in the genes but it is a learned behaviour.i very well know the Biblical account of Sadom and Gomorrah reveals God's feelings about such things.The extent of their sinful depravity was apparent when two men ,this means angels,visited Lot.The men of Sadom were bad and were gross sinners against God.They wanted Lot to bring the men to them that they would't be able to have intercourse with them. Romans ,first chapter says the men because "violently inflamed in their lust toward one another males with males".Jude chapter 7 says," they had gone out after flesh for unnatural use".God commended his ancient people : "you must not lie down with a male the same as you lie down with woman.It is a detestable thing "Leviticus 18:22
God's direction that "marriage be honorable among all" precludes homosexual unions,which He consideres detestable -Heb 13;4.And i know that many who formerly pursued a homosexual life-style have broken free from such bad practies. The Bible says 1Kor 6:9 that some Christians (who lived in the first century ) who had practiced homosexuality changed their life style.The next example is Freddie Mercury.I possess some materials that evidently prove that he was simply involved in such imoral homosexual practices.And of course no one was born as a homosexualist. So it is sure that God didin't create lesbians or homosexualists and because of this He has a right to require of us to avoid such practiceces.He doesn't approve same-sex relationship and so such homosexual marriage cannot be real marriage according to The Bible .That is why it is not impasse at all but ratter it is easy .Such human unions cannot fulfil God's purpose for people to have children( the main plan for the earth) and fill the whole earth. i know that everything what God require of us is possible to be done and of course is natural that an anus is not for sex.And I think that we should hate such imoral practices but not people who do them because God is love and wants everyone to change and live.
why is it that ex jdubs always export what the witchtower says about the trinity and argue against that.. anybody who has read the trinity brochure must know how it distorts the quotes, often turning them right around.
the wt thinks the trinity means a three headed god, or makes up other such nonsense.. instead of attacking those whose faith leads them to believe in a triune godhead, maybe these people should find out what the real teaching on the trinity is rather than tub thumping against what the wtbts claims these christians believe.. whatever your opinion, all that really matters is that a christian calls on the name of jesus and looks to him for salvation.
it is the wt that claims you have to have every doctrine in line with their views or you will die.
possible-san, no one is able to prevent other people from their own beliefs,doctrines or customs.It's not doubt about that
