Posts by ablebodiedman

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The Bible

by desib77 in

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i am meeting a coworker tonight at a coffee shop for a "bible study".

it started out that she was interested in my past and my current questions / viewpoints and we were just going to visit.

now she is referring to it as a "bible study" which implies that she thinks i need to be taught.

ablebodiedman

AllTimeJeff,

Your point of view and reasoning is not unique.

You have obviously recognised that an enormous amount of suffering has and is continuing to happen and that God is still a no show.

There are however, many people who still think the suffering can be resolved without any interference from God.

What if God was to show up now?

These people would then say that they could have resolved all the suffering themselves.

The conditions in the world will have to reach a point where these people realize that they really don't know what to do in order to resolve the problems which cause suffering.

Yes, It will get much worse as a consequence of their efforts!

When people and nations around the world start coming to the conclusion that they really don't know what to do , that is when Jesus Christ will show.

I am not making this up.

It is what the bible says:

Luke 21:25-28 --- Amplified Bible

25 And there will be signs in the sun and moon and stars; and upon the earth [there will be] distress (trouble and anguish) of nations in bewildermentand perplexity without resources, left wanting, embarrassed, in doubt, not knowing which way to turn] at the roaring (the echo) of the tossing of the sea,

26 Men swooning away or expiring with fear and dread and apprehension and expectation of the things that are coming on the world; for the [very] powers of the heavens will be shaken and [c] caused to totter.

27 And then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with great (transcendent and overwhelming) power and [all His kingly] glory (majesty and splendor).

When the people who presently think they know what to do begin to admit that they really don't know what to do, that is the time that Jesus Christ will show.

Please spend some time imagining the conditions which will occur in order for these presumptious people to confess that they really do not know what to do!

What platform will they then be using to obtain a democratic vote?

Conditions will reach the point where even political candidates will have to say: "I don't know what to do".

Imagine that!

abe

49

Something Big Is Happening To the WT Mag.

by metatron in

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i looked over the aug. 1 public watchtower and noticed the same changes i observed previously.. plainly put, it appears that they have simply run out of things to say and so are just filling up printing space!.

they devote 4 full pages to a bible reading schedule that could have been easily condensed into a couple sentences.

they have the same large graphics and typeset that eats up printing area.

ablebodiedman

Yes, the Internet is a feature provided around the entire earth which is capable of swallowing up the river of lies published by The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society.

Revelation 12

16 But the earth came to the woman’s help, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed up the river that the dragon disgorged from its mouth. 17 And the dragon grew wrathful at the woman, and went off to wage war with the remaining ones of her seed, who observe the commandments of God and have the work of bearing witness to Jesus.

Please read this book which discusses how the Internet is swallowing up the lies and then swallows them up:

http://thebiblereport.blogspot.com/2008/08/video-chapter-covenant-with-death.html

abe

49

Something Big Is Happening To the WT Mag.

by metatron in

jw
friends

i looked over the aug. 1 public watchtower and noticed the same changes i observed previously.. plainly put, it appears that they have simply run out of things to say and so are just filling up printing space!.

they devote 4 full pages to a bible reading schedule that could have been easily condensed into a couple sentences.

they have the same large graphics and typeset that eats up printing area.

ablebodiedman

Yes, the Internet is a feature provided around the entire earth which is capable of swallowing up the river of lies published by The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society.

Revelation 12

16 But the earth came to the woman’s help, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed up the river that the dragon disgorged from its mouth. 17 And the dragon grew wrathful at the woman, and went off to wage war with the remaining ones of her seed, who observe the commandments of God and have the work of bearing witness to Jesus.

abe

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is my baptisum as a minor vaild?

by highdose in

as a young minor, barely into my teens i was in a congo that had extreme peer pressure to get baptized.

in fact you were seen as a bad person if you didn't, and everyone else my age was, the threat was that if you were the last to get baptized of your generation then you would be seen as unspiritual.. this and some other things have troubled me since:.

when i came to be baptized i was suffering from an illness that greatly affected my concentration.. when it came to the assembly and i had to stand and answer those two questions i was shaking so much i didn't actauly say anything, in fact my mouth wouldn't open.. i am totaly sure that if i had waited until age 30 to get baptized as jesus did, i never would have got baptized at all.. so my question is: was my baptisum actualy vaild?

ablebodiedman

If you made a vow:

In the name of the father

and of the son

and in association with; "God's Spirit Directed Organization"

Then your baptism is automatically invalid because this is NOT what Jesus Christ commanded!

abe

55

The Bible

by desib77 in

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friends

i am meeting a coworker tonight at a coffee shop for a "bible study".

it started out that she was interested in my past and my current questions / viewpoints and we were just going to visit.

now she is referring to it as a "bible study" which implies that she thinks i need to be taught.

ablebodiedman

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Can you think of any self important organizations who have made up their own rules (counsels/laws)?

I invite people to carefully examine Jesus Christs commandment (law) regarding baptism.

Anyone who has the presumption to change this baptismal law before the conclusion of this system of things should be considered as without law.

---- lawless!

"that's right they make up their own counsels but they have left the WORD."

Imagine what might happen if an organization decided to exclude the Holy Spirit from Jesus Christ's baptismal law.

Would the Holy Spirit be grieved?

The only unforgivable sin!

The transgression (sin) that is guaranteed to cause desolation!

This constant feature of worship would become invalid.

It would be removed.

see Daniel Chapter 8 and 11.

abe

55

The Bible

by desib77 in

jw
friends

i am meeting a coworker tonight at a coffee shop for a "bible study".

it started out that she was interested in my past and my current questions / viewpoints and we were just going to visit.

now she is referring to it as a "bible study" which implies that she thinks i need to be taught.

ablebodiedman

Love is a wonderful thing and I am very thankful that I have been made with the capability to love but I don't believe that it was a choice between creation that can love and creation that obeys God. You have to think that this is the almighty God. Why a choice? Why not humans that can love and yet worship him the way he so obviously wants to be worshipped?

Love is a choice.

If you simply love God becasue he created you in such a way that you are compelled to love him then is that really love?

Of course not!

Satan's argument is that people will not choose to love him and will instead make up their own rules.

The only righteous and loving option that God has remaining is to continue to allow people to choose.

The problem is that if people are allowed to make up their own rules then suffering becomes a consequence of those rules.

The entire bible is full of examples of this.

The value of the decisions that people make can be measured by simply looking around at the condition of our present world.

The present world we live in is an example of suffering as a consequence of decisions (rules) that men have made.

Should God be held accountable for the suffering when it is a result of refusing to obey him?

Or should God allow it to continue just to prove that there really will be people capable of exhibiting love even under these awfull conditions.

The bible shows that a time will come when God plans to step in and remove the people who disobey him so that the people who are capable of exhibiting love can enjoy the full benefit.

They won't have to suffer the consequences of decisions made by people who think they can make up their own rules.

In order to be counted in amoungst those people it is very important that Jesus Christs commandments are followed.

It is also very important to carefully examine Jesus Christ's warnings also.

False prophets really will come saying; "The due time is here".

The false prophets will also have great success, even misleading the chosen ones.

That is why it is very important to follow Jesus Christ's commandments exactly!

Can you think of any false prophets who said the; "the due time is here" and it did not come true?

Be very, very, very carefull.

abe

55

The Bible

by desib77 in

jw
friends

i am meeting a coworker tonight at a coffee shop for a "bible study".

it started out that she was interested in my past and my current questions / viewpoints and we were just going to visit.

now she is referring to it as a "bible study" which implies that she thinks i need to be taught.

ablebodiedman

I can't see how a God that obviously made a flaw in his creation for them to choose incorrectly when tested would allow that creation to continue in a flawed state with added "inperfection". Why not scrap the whole thing? If God is most high and almighty then he would have known that his creation would not stay true to him when tempted. And to allow life as humans to continue in a punished state where people have pain and suffering is absolutely unloving and unjust.

This is a question many people also have.

In order to get past it what I do is think about the alternatives and motives.

If God wanted to create people who would do exactly what he said all the time then he could have created robots.

Problem is that the robots would not be doing anything because they wanted to.

There would be no such thing as ........... want.

If God had created people like this then there would be no allowance for, kindness, mercy, or even love.

People (robots) would simply do things because the had to.

In this situation there would be NO LOVE.

So what God has actually done is made a creation which allows the opportunity for LOVE to actually exist.

He has created LOVE.

I think you need to ask yourself the question whether you would prefer to be a flawless robot or a creation capable of LOVE.

When I look at the accounts in Genesis I see the remarkable possibilities.

God could have created flawless robots.

or the alternative:

Created people with the ability to love if they so choose.

I think he made the right decision.

abe

77

TED JARACZ' stroke, latest from Bethel heavy.

by yesidid in

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according to a bethel heavy i know rather well,.

ted is paralysed down his right side,.

however his mind and speech remain unaffected.. .

ablebodiedman

You folks think the minds fo any Governing Body member works, with or without a stroke?

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TED JARACZ' stroke, latest from Bethel heavy.

by yesidid in

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friends

according to a bethel heavy i know rather well,.

ted is paralysed down his right side,.

however his mind and speech remain unaffected.. .

ablebodiedman

Ah, I see. I thought you may be suggesting that it may throw a spanner in the works for the potential appointment of two new GB members that has been rumoured.

For the benefit of any North Americans: spanner = wrench

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Atheists choose 'de-baptism' to renounce childhood faith

by whereami in

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do you think the wts would except this?.

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http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2009-07-21-atheists-debaptism_n.htm?csp=usat.me.

ablebodiedman

Actually I would like to be baptised! I really do want to have a baptism according to the way Jesus Christ commanded: In the name of the Father and of the son and of Holy Spirit. It has been burning my conscience for a long time now that instead of obeying Jesus Christ I made my vows to: Jehovah Jesus Christ and "Gods Spirit Directed Organization" I want to include the Holy Spirit in my baptism. I am concerned that the Holy Spirit may be grieved by the fact I left it out of my vows and instead replaced it with an organization of mere men. The only unforgivable sin! The transgression (sin) which causes desolation (unforgivable) I want to actually obey Jesus Christs commandment. After all isn't that what makes you a real Christian. abe