Christians have destroyed Christianity!
abe
ablebodiedman
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the bible and its prophecies
by Crazyguy ini have been doing a lot of research on the bible and its roots so to speak and its becoming clearer that the jews like other races took gods and stories from others and made them their own.
its also become clear that many of the books were written later then stated, like daniel probably written about a hundred years before christ and some of it maybe even after.
but what i don't get is the prophecies.
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the bible and its prophecies
by Crazyguy ini have been doing a lot of research on the bible and its roots so to speak and its becoming clearer that the jews like other races took gods and stories from others and made them their own.
its also become clear that many of the books were written later then stated, like daniel probably written about a hundred years before christ and some of it maybe even after.
but what i don't get is the prophecies.
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ablebodiedman
Christianity is ruined!
Now you can also understand what Daniel Chapter 2:44 really means:
Daniel 2:44
"And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be brought to ruin. And the kingdom itself will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it itself will stand to times indefinite;
So after Christianity is destroyed then what is the next Kingdom that will not be ruined?
Revelation 21:27
But anything not sacred and anyone that carries on a disgusting thing and a lie will in no way enter into it; only those written in the Lamb’s scroll of life [will].
Understand Revelation 21:27 above and now listen again carefully to what Jesus Christ said and determine what the last kingdom really is:
Matthew 13:39-43
The harvest is a conclusion of a system of things, and the reapers are angels. 40 Therefore, just as the weeds are collected and burned with fire, so it will be in the conclusion of the system of things. 41 The Son of man will send forth his angels, and they will collect out from his kingdom all things that cause stumbling and persons who are doing lawlessness, 42 and they will pitch them into the fiery furnace. There is where [their] weeping and the gnashing of [their] teeth will be. 43 At that time the righteous ones will shine as brightly as the sun in the kingdom of their Father.
Let him that has ears listen.
anyone listening?
abe
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the bible and its prophecies
by Crazyguy ini have been doing a lot of research on the bible and its roots so to speak and its becoming clearer that the jews like other races took gods and stories from others and made them their own.
its also become clear that many of the books were written later then stated, like daniel probably written about a hundred years before christ and some of it maybe even after.
but what i don't get is the prophecies.
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ablebodiedman
The prophecy is mainly about the fate of “the holy city” and Daniel’s people (v. 24).
Interesting that it is a Messianic prophecy and yet mentions Daniels people.
Daniels people are Christians!
“As for the city and the sanctuary, the people of the coming prince will destroy them.”
The coming "prince" is Jesus Christ.
The people of the coming prince are Christians.
Christians will destroy the city and the sanctuary!
Daniel Chapter 8 helps us understand this:
Daniel 8:11-12
And all the way to the Prince of the army it put on great airs, and from him the constant [feature] was taken away, and the established place of his sanctuary was thrown down. 12 And an army itself was gradually given over, together with the constant [feature], because of transgression; and it kept throwing truth to the earth, and it acted and had success.
"established place of his sanctuary"
What sanctuary or temple did Jesus Christ establish?
The Christian Temple!
Hebrews 10:19-20
Therefore, brothers, since we have boldness for the way of entry into the holy place by the blood of Jesus, 20 which he inaugurated [established sanctuary] for us as a new and living way through the curtain, that is, his flesh,
Hebrews Chapter 10 also helps us understand what the "constant [feature]" is:
Hebrews 10:12
But this [man] offered one sacrifice for sins perpetually and sat down at the right hand of God,
Yes, the "constant feature" is removed from the "holy place" and replaced by a "disgusting thing"!
Now do you understand what "cut off" means?
Daniel 9:26
"And after the sixty-two weeks Mes·si´ah will be cut off, with nothing for himself.
abe
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the bible and its prophecies
by Crazyguy ini have been doing a lot of research on the bible and its roots so to speak and its becoming clearer that the jews like other races took gods and stories from others and made them their own.
its also become clear that many of the books were written later then stated, like daniel probably written about a hundred years before christ and some of it maybe even after.
but what i don't get is the prophecies.
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ablebodiedman
2 Thessalonians 1:6-8
, 7 but, to YOU who suffer tribulation, relief along with us at the revelation of the Lord Jesus from heaven with his powerful angels 8 in a flaming fire, as he brings vengeance upon those who do not know God and those who do not obey the good news about our Lord Jesus.
Transgression terminated!
Daniel 9:24
"There are seventy weeks that have been determined upon your people and upon your holy city, in order to terminate the transgression,
Let him that has ears listen.
abe
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the bible and its prophecies
by Crazyguy ini have been doing a lot of research on the bible and its roots so to speak and its becoming clearer that the jews like other races took gods and stories from others and made them their own.
its also become clear that many of the books were written later then stated, like daniel probably written about a hundred years before christ and some of it maybe even after.
but what i don't get is the prophecies.
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ablebodiedman
The Son of man will send forth his angels, and they will collect out from his kingdom all thingsthat cause stumbling and persons who are doing lawlessness
Transgression terminated!
Daniel 9:24
"There are seventy weeks that have been determined upon your people and upon your holy city, in order to terminate the transgression,
Let him that has ears listen.
abe
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the bible and its prophecies
by Crazyguy ini have been doing a lot of research on the bible and its roots so to speak and its becoming clearer that the jews like other races took gods and stories from others and made them their own.
its also become clear that many of the books were written later then stated, like daniel probably written about a hundred years before christ and some of it maybe even after.
but what i don't get is the prophecies.
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ablebodiedman
The phrase “to bring in everlasting righteousness” (Dan. 9:24 ESV) can only refer to the Christ.
Which will happen at the end of the 70 weeks:
Matthew 13:39-43
The harvest is a conclusion of a system of things, and the reapers are angels. 40 Therefore, just as the weeds are collected and burned with fire, so it will be in the conclusion of the system of things. 41 The Son of man will send forth his angels, and they will collect out from his kingdom all things that cause stumbling and persons who are doing lawlessness, 42 and they will pitch them into the fiery furnace. There is where [their] weeping and the gnashing of [their] teeth will be. 43 At that time the righteous ones will shine as brightly as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Let him that has ears listen.
Both the begining and end of the 70 weeks prophecy are completely misunderstood.
abe
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the bible and its prophecies
by Crazyguy ini have been doing a lot of research on the bible and its roots so to speak and its becoming clearer that the jews like other races took gods and stories from others and made them their own.
its also become clear that many of the books were written later then stated, like daniel probably written about a hundred years before christ and some of it maybe even after.
but what i don't get is the prophecies.
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ablebodiedman
Processor: "trees again would grow in Isreal" no one
could forsee that. LOL
Revelation 22:1-2
And he showed me a river of water of life, clear as crystal, flowing out from the throne of God and of the Lamb 2 down the middle of its broad way. And on this side of the river and on that side [there were] trees of life producing twelve crops of fruit, yielding their fruits each month. And the leaves of the trees [were] for the curing of the nations.
abe
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the bible and its prophecies
by Crazyguy ini have been doing a lot of research on the bible and its roots so to speak and its becoming clearer that the jews like other races took gods and stories from others and made them their own.
its also become clear that many of the books were written later then stated, like daniel probably written about a hundred years before christ and some of it maybe even after.
but what i don't get is the prophecies.
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ablebodiedman
The prophecy of Dan. 9:26 impresses me no end.
Me too!
What I question though is when the word went forth to rebuild Jerusalem.
Daniel 9:25
And you should know and have the insight [that] from the going forth of [the] word to restore and to rebuild Jerusalem
The Apostles seemed very convinced that the rebuilding of Jerusalem had just begun in their day:
Acts 15:13-18
After they quit speaking, James answered, saying: "Men, brothers, hear me. 14 Sym´e·on has related thoroughly how God for the first time turned his attention to the nations to take out of them a people for his name. 15 And with this the words of the Prophets agree, just as it is written, 16 ‘After these things I shall return and rebuild the booth of David that is fallen down; and I shall rebuild its ruins and erect it again, 17 in order that those who remain of the men may earnestly seek Jehovah, together with people of all the nations, people who are called by my name, says Jehovah, who is doing these things, 18 known from of old.’
Which must mean that the Messiah's "cutting off" is something entirely different from his crucifixion.
This would make the Watchtowers and all other popular interpretations completely redundant.
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That the temple being rebuilt was NOT brick and mortar.
abe
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Wheat/weeds parable defeats "organization' teaching
by Zoos inin his illustration at mathew 13: 24-30, jesus made it clear that the wheat and weeds were to grow together until the harvest.
this parable runs contrary to the concept put forward by the wt about getting out of the world and running to their organization for salvation.. first of all, the parable says that the weeds will be gathered, bundled and burned first then the wheat will be gathered into the storehouse.. wt teaches that we need to gather up the wheat first.
not only are they doing it backward, they are teaching that true christians must isolate themselves inside a special wheat organization, separate from the weeds.
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ablebodiedman
So there are many testimonies on this forum where disfellowshipped people are grieving over the situation inside their own family.
Being disconnected, isolated, shunned, persecuted and people saying wicked lies about them.
Read what I have posted above and understand that Jesus Christ himself is intimately involved in what is happening to you!
Can YOU now "see" Jesus Christ?
I am convinced he can "see" YOU.
John 16:20
Most truly I say to YOU, YOU will weep and wail, but the world will rejoice; YOU will be grieved, but YOUR grief will be turned into joy.
John 16:22
YOU also, therefore, are now, indeed, having grief; but I shall "see" YOU again and YOUR hearts will rejoice.
Do you have ears to "listen" and eyes to "see"?
Numbers 24:3-4
And the utterance of the able-bodied man with the eye unsealed,
4 The utterance of the one hearing the sayings of God,
Who got to see a vision of the Almighty
While falling down with the eyes uncovered:
abe
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Wheat/weeds parable defeats "organization' teaching
by Zoos inin his illustration at mathew 13: 24-30, jesus made it clear that the wheat and weeds were to grow together until the harvest.
this parable runs contrary to the concept put forward by the wt about getting out of the world and running to their organization for salvation.. first of all, the parable says that the weeds will be gathered, bundled and burned first then the wheat will be gathered into the storehouse.. wt teaches that we need to gather up the wheat first.
not only are they doing it backward, they are teaching that true christians must isolate themselves inside a special wheat organization, separate from the weeds.
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ablebodiedman
(Just my 2 cents, but I've observed a lot of modern day JW's glorifying themselves and making claims about eternity for themselves)
That statement is worth far more than 2 cents!
Consider this:
w83 7/1 p. 23 The Live Men of Faith Who Will Never Die
Unquestionably, so late in this "time of the end" since the end of the Gentile Times in 1914, there are many live men and women of faith and integrity who will never die off the face of the earth, God’s footstool.
Are all those people living since 1914 now dead?
If so, then this expression is false, it is a lie, it is unclean. (now read Revelation Ch16)
The same lie that Satan told to Eve is still working thousands of years later!
Now consider what the bible says about making a covenant with death (Millions Now Living Will Never Die):
Isaiah 28:15
Because YOU men have said: "We have concluded a covenant with Death; and with She´ol we have effected a vision; the overflowing flash flood, in case it should pass through, will not come to us, for we have made a lie our refuge and in falsehood we have concealed ourselves";
and about escaping the calamity:
Micah 3:11-12
Her own head ones judge merely for a bribe, and her own priests instruct just for a price, and her own prophets practice divination simply for money; yet upon Jehovah they keep supporting themselves, saying: "Is not Jehovah in the midst of us? There will come upon us no calamity." 12 Therefore on account of YOU men Zion will be plowed up as a mere field, and Jerusalem herself will become mere heaps of ruins, and the mountain of the house will be as the high places of a forest.
Can you think of any world wide religion who blatantly declare those things the scriptures above warn us about?
Everything the bible said would happen, is happening!
abe