Posts by allelsefails

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Can't sleep... Feel so alone!

by Free!! in

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sorry, i am just feeling alone and needed to vent..... i hate the fact that i allow jws to control me for so long and now i have no friends!

i mean, i do have a few, but at moments like this when my head is spinning like a thousand miles per hour, there is noone i can call and trust and talk to.... my friends all have their lives, and the few that i can call, i am afraid to do so... again, i know i said this before, but jw ruined my social skills... .

i want to scream!!!

allelsefails

It is hard to feel an internet site makes you not alone. But here we are. all different - all the same.

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Never, ever posted to a site before-Scarec silly

by PaintedToeNail in

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hi, i'm scared to death writing this that i will be discovered and have major problems.

i had a good life being raised as a jw child.

many good memories of people, places and times.

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PTN -Welcome. Hopefully you can find some peace here.

My wife has accepted me after a few years of tension. I still go to some meetings, memorial, and convention, but she understands it is a Family thing for me not spiritual. I have never tried to change her mind about being a witness, but she asks me what I'm thinking and I tell her. What about 586? What about what Russell taught about Armageddon? 1874? 144,000? Most witnesses will admit they are not sure about many JW points if confronted with them, but it must be very subtle. Asking for advice on this forum is a great way to get started.

Peace to you

Allelsefails

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New to this site. Scared, Lonely and in a lot of pain due to shunning by my family.

by wonder*woman in

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this is my very first post to this forum.

i am begging for some much needed encouragment and support by those who are kind hearted and know exactly the pain shunning causes.

i am a 30 year old former jehovah's witness and a mother of two beautiful girls.

allelsefails

Welcome and thanks for posting. I am still in so no "shunning" officially, but since people know i'm not at meetings or whatever thay treat me very differently. Like I have some plague or something.

We understand and we accept you whatever you do or don't believe. We've been there done that in the pain department.

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Democrat or Republican? Does it matter?

by Wonderment in

election year is approaching.

are we ready for the political campaigns?

for those who vote, does it really matter whether we vote democrat or republican?.

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George Washington said that a 2 party system would destroy America and it very nearly has. It has brought us to the brink of disaster now. More than 50% of americans are "moderates". That is why we see republican presidents dealing with a dem congress and then a dem president dealing with a pub congress. People are AFRAID of a government of all Pubs or Dems. They could really F%#K us over. Right now we have a government where Obama is arguing w/congress and they can't get anything done. That is what MOST Americans want. A government that can't do anything. The less the government does the better.

I'm pretty sure THE CONSTITUITION says"provide for the common defense, regulate interstate trade". That is the beginning and the end of what we want from our federal government. Our local and State Govs can handle everything else some well some badly, but that is our problem noone elses.

Long live the republic!

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assemblies and alcohol

by pedal power in

our dc coming up this weekend, i hated them and the only thing that kept me going ,was the reward of booze at the end of each day.my then wife,zelous judgemental pioneer, you know the type,not only droned on about my drinking, but about everyones drinking, a real barrel of laughs not.

anyway, one year we went to another dc, in newcastle, all seemed to be going well, until lunch.we went over to a hotel for lunch,i ordered my fresh orange and food, a few minutes later, the local jw,s arrived for lunch, they had all pr-ordered drinks,alcoholic drinks, and not one drink but many !!!

they were buisy getting boozed up for the afternoon session,way to go, i was about to join them, when my wife told me " dont even think about it ", anyway she was outraged, but there they were ,with thier little convention badges, men and women, young and old, getting merry, they dont even do that here in scotland, !!!.

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ohhh... i wish my conventions had alcohol ...

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This convention blows

by Anony Mous in

seriously, half day in (already had an argument with the wife this morning about individuality in the organization in which she conceded that a lot of it is based on looks) and this is already getting on my nerves.

i'll post a rebuttal based on my annotations later in the week but one thing i got to get off my mind: saying the feminist movement (women going to work instead of staying home) and the diversity laws (allowing for homosexuality - but also religious freedom, racial discrimination etc.

) caused a lot of the problems in our world right from the stage.. there are less people here than last year - about 500 less..

allelsefails

I love my wife.... She IS IN..... we went to the convention together and she even recognized the c\razy stuff they say... It is hard foir me to argue with her because she thinks moral accountability of JWs is a good thing, tho she is not on board with the FDS.....

For years I have heard that "depressed"ones don't have God's spirit..... "Joy" is a fruitage. It is ridiculous logic that makes all JWs feel horible if they complain.

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What is the most offensive/idiotic piece of WT literature you've read from the past 20 years (approximately)?

by Chemical Emotions in

i think that some of the dumbest were ones that pertained to science- not all of them, but a few, particularly the ones about evolution.

the most offensive (and also dumbest) were the ones about women, and the ones about rape.

those were horrible.

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Godrulzc - What are Salvific Issues to you? I know the naturwe of Christ, But not Blood? Is immoralitry? Adultery? Pagan worship like Christmas? Easter? (actually named for a Pagan Goddess)...... Just interested in what you are thinking here.....

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What is the most offensive/idiotic piece of WT literature you've read from the past 20 years (approximately)?

by Chemical Emotions in

i think that some of the dumbest were ones that pertained to science- not all of them, but a few, particularly the ones about evolution.

the most offensive (and also dumbest) were the ones about women, and the ones about rape.

those were horrible.

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NC - THE "Generation" used to be a group of people that saw (understood) 1914. Then it changed to anyone alive in 1914. I was assured that by 1984 (I was 8) the end would come. It recently changed to anyone who was aware of events in 1914 and ANOINTED who overlapped lives with ANOINTED ones today. Yes the GENERATION is not 40 years like Jesus' Generation, but an OVERLAPPING generation. No dictionary anywhere would agree or accept there BS, but that is what it is.

The school brocure was idiotic and ridiculous.

I loved my mom studying the Menstruation chapter of the "Youth" book with me when I was 9 years old. I am sure that did no F*@k my mind up.......

Whwn allelsefails try something thats make sense.....

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DC 2011 - Dragnet

by allelsefails in

even my wife had no idea what to think.

the "separating work" described here is taking place today?

wtf.

allelsefails

Even my wife had no idea what to think. The "Separating Work" described here is taking place today? WTF. I thought we lost the seperating work 16 years ago......... "Sheep and Goats" anyone? Apparently those who who are brought to the memorial (25 milion) are caught in this dragnet, but only thoise who become active parts of the congregation are in the "Vessells" and will be saved. LMAO.

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Jesus Is Jehovah/Jehovah Is Jesus

by snowbird in

http://www.str.org/site/news2?page=newsarticle&id=5725.

i fought against this with all my wts-trained power, but truth prevailed.. any way you cut it, it comes out the same.. peace and strength in your search.. sylvia.

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Terry - I like it - Son of Man why can't that be good enough?

Not the Pauline silliness or the John make believe 70 years later. Just the Mark and Matthew Jesus. "Do the will of the Father and you will be saved" right?