i mean blow their fucking brains out..
What is this, the trolley problem simplified edition? At least make it interesting:
Suppose you pass by a traintrack. On the traintrack is a very fat terrorist. You notice a trolley with 3 terrorists are rolling towards the fat terrorist. If you don't push the fat terrorist aside he will be overrun by the trolley and die, however if you push the fat terrorist off the track the three terrorists will continue along the track and eventually fly off a cliff. What do you do?
this latest attack in manchester u.k. targeting a venue attended by mainly children and teenagers who go to a concert by their favorite singer and then to be attacked by a terroist has to be the last straw... surely ?
22 dead at last count mainly young girls enjoying a concert of their favourite singer ?
and at least 50 others suffering injuries ?.
Simon: Then I might have misunderstood you. I obviously think that membership of a terror organization and plans to carry out acts of terrorism should remain punishable, I was just curious how the suggestion to execute family members of a terrorist who are "fanatics" would be carried out in practice. You are thinking about a psychological assessment?
this latest attack in manchester u.k. targeting a venue attended by mainly children and teenagers who go to a concert by their favorite singer and then to be attacked by a terroist has to be the last straw... surely ?
22 dead at last count mainly young girls enjoying a concert of their favourite singer ?
and at least 50 others suffering injuries ?.
Stop passively trying to monitor people - if someone is an extremist, execute them.
Find their family and if they are fanatics, execute them.
I don't want to argue but just understand your view. How do you propose to solve the legal and practical implications of this suggestion such as the constitutionality of death penalty for thoughts/beliefs considered to fall in the "extreme" category and devising appropriate tests to assess "fanaticism" used to determine execution?
"Dear Mr. magic wall. Please undo whatever is making Melania angry and let me return home early"
I bet Trump loves it: Muslims on one side... heavily guarded... jews paid for it...it makes your wishes come true. Best wall ever!
washington — president trump asked the f.b.i.
director, james b. comey, to shut down the federal investigation into mr. trump’s former national security adviser, michael t. flynn, in an oval office meeting in february, according to a memo mr. comey wrote shortly after the meeting.. “i hope you can let this go,” the president told mr. comey, according to the memo.. the existence of mr. trump’s request is the clearest evidence that the president has tried to directly influence the justice department and f.b.i.
investigation into links between mr. trump’s associates and russia.. mr. comey wrote the memo detailing his conversation with the president immediately after the meeting, which took place the day after mr. flynn resigned, according to two people who read the memo.
Simon: well, I am all good with not being allowed to copy-paste liberal (or any other) source without attribution... I would hope the standard was applied evenly to all board members of course.
washington — president trump asked the f.b.i.
director, james b. comey, to shut down the federal investigation into mr. trump’s former national security adviser, michael t. flynn, in an oval office meeting in february, according to a memo mr. comey wrote shortly after the meeting.. “i hope you can let this go,” the president told mr. comey, according to the memo.. the existence of mr. trump’s request is the clearest evidence that the president has tried to directly influence the justice department and f.b.i.
investigation into links between mr. trump’s associates and russia.. mr. comey wrote the memo detailing his conversation with the president immediately after the meeting, which took place the day after mr. flynn resigned, according to two people who read the memo.
FMF: but there are a lot of you (bohm, sir, spoletta, coded logic and more) who have concluded he is guilty based on supposed "EVIDENCE".
For the record, I have not said that Trump is guilty of anything, you made that up. Care to retract?
I said there are a number of odd things about Trump and his team's relationship with Russia and it deserves an investigation. I believe that is true and fairly uncontroversial given it is a belief shared by e.g. the FBI. Keep in mind it has just been reported that the GOP house majority leader have stated a much more serious allegation namely that he thinks Trump is being paid by Russia. This is BEYOND what I have written.
Today, I believe more and more damning evidence is coming to light, see for instance the scenario where Flynn was paid (undisclosed) 500'000 dollars and then was part of a policy change favoring the people who were paying him (Turkey). This evidence too deserves an investigation IMO, and I believe that is what the FBI is doing.
Spoletta: I'm flattered that you associate me with Bohm, whose reasoning and command of facts cuts through your deflection and insults like a knife through butter,
thanks and you too!
washington — president trump asked the f.b.i.
director, james b. comey, to shut down the federal investigation into mr. trump’s former national security adviser, michael t. flynn, in an oval office meeting in february, according to a memo mr. comey wrote shortly after the meeting.. “i hope you can let this go,” the president told mr. comey, according to the memo.. the existence of mr. trump’s request is the clearest evidence that the president has tried to directly influence the justice department and f.b.i.
investigation into links between mr. trump’s associates and russia.. mr. comey wrote the memo detailing his conversation with the president immediately after the meeting, which took place the day after mr. flynn resigned, according to two people who read the memo.
no, fmf, I bet you got it from a really reputable source. the_donald? 4chan?
Comey is testifying about obstruction from the AG/DOJ, not POTUS. I know there is a lot of straw-grabbing (like the whole Seth Rich thing which seems like pizzagate 2.0 except less evidence) out there but you would do well to read the sources and ask what they are saying, exactly. A person like Comey testifying on this matter is likely to weight his words *very* carefully.
My point is that you are copy-pasting things from the right-wing-o-sphere onto this forum without attribution while calling the rest of us idiots. I don't believe this is the first time. Can't we do away with either the copy-pasting without attribution or the name-calling? It seems like those two things don't go well together.
washington — president trump asked the f.b.i.
director, james b. comey, to shut down the federal investigation into mr. trump’s former national security adviser, michael t. flynn, in an oval office meeting in february, according to a memo mr. comey wrote shortly after the meeting.. “i hope you can let this go,” the president told mr. comey, according to the memo.. the existence of mr. trump’s request is the clearest evidence that the president has tried to directly influence the justice department and f.b.i.
investigation into links between mr. trump’s associates and russia.. mr. comey wrote the memo detailing his conversation with the president immediately after the meeting, which took place the day after mr. flynn resigned, according to two people who read the memo.
washington — president trump asked the f.b.i.
director, james b. comey, to shut down the federal investigation into mr. trump’s former national security adviser, michael t. flynn, in an oval office meeting in february, according to a memo mr. comey wrote shortly after the meeting.. “i hope you can let this go,” the president told mr. comey, according to the memo.. the existence of mr. trump’s request is the clearest evidence that the president has tried to directly influence the justice department and f.b.i.
investigation into links between mr. trump’s associates and russia.. mr. comey wrote the memo detailing his conversation with the president immediately after the meeting, which took place the day after mr. flynn resigned, according to two people who read the memo.
Simon: Well, both Coded Logic and I did address the substance of the tweet. I don't think it is healthy that things from far right/left ideologues are copy-pasted onto this forum and passed off as original ideas. I think it is happening more and more often, for instance, all the "last night in Sweden" stories which coincide with whatever trend on /pol or the_Donald.
But whatever, I can't tell you how to moderate this place. if copy-pasting rebel medias twitter feed and calling other posters idiots/spaz/jackasses is cool then I guess that is how it is.
Update:
Well look at that. Special council for the Russia investigation, McCarthy saying he believes Putin pays Trump and Paul Ryan reported to have told him to keep quiet. The spin on this one from fox/right-wing media will be EPIC.
update-update: I did address the quote, see previous posts. Comey did not say POTUS had not told him to stop the investigation. I don't think I have more posts so I can't address this anymore.
Liberal media is not blameless & I can't stand huffpo. Please ban me when I copy-paste huffpo stories and try to pass them off as my own ideas. For my own sake.
washington — president trump asked the f.b.i.
director, james b. comey, to shut down the federal investigation into mr. trump’s former national security adviser, michael t. flynn, in an oval office meeting in february, according to a memo mr. comey wrote shortly after the meeting.. “i hope you can let this go,” the president told mr. comey, according to the memo.. the existence of mr. trump’s request is the clearest evidence that the president has tried to directly influence the justice department and f.b.i.
investigation into links between mr. trump’s associates and russia.. mr. comey wrote the memo detailing his conversation with the president immediately after the meeting, which took place the day after mr. flynn resigned, according to two people who read the memo.
FMF: BOHM I have no idea who you are talking about, the expert from the Comey testimony is all over the internet, chose whatever maniac you want to try and associate me with, I have no idea who you are talking about. If he tweeted about I am sure he is not the only one... idiot
Yah well. You wrote this:
FMF: Comey said under oath that Trump did not ask him to halt any investigation - 5/8/17
Minutes after known pedler of conspiracies Jack Posobiec wrote this on twitter:
Jack Posobiec: Comey said under oath that Trump did not ask him to halt any investigation - 5/8/17
Notice the similarities? Like, somone took the tweet and copy pasted it onto JWN lol. You are really trying to convince me that you just happened to come upon this testimony, moments after Jack did, and happened to write exactly the same as he did ;-).
BTW. is it all cool that we call each other idiots now on this forum? When did that happen?
Update: Just wanted to add: This is definitely not the only example of how this forum has become a dumping ground of opinions and views from a few select right-wing sites (certain twitter feeds, the_donald, /pol/ on 4chan, etc.). I am also having a suspicion we may be dealing with some sock-puppeteering.
