Posts by bohm

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What is your opinion of the news media?

by minimus in

to me they have an agenda and they really don't care about professional journalism.

most are untrustworthy and that's a shame.

bohm

And Trump's ideas are to promote Russia as a friendly 2nd cousin to the United States? - if correct, what's wrong with this?
The Cold War ended 25 years ago.

That line has become awfully popular.

What is wrong with bombing civilians in Syria?

What is wrong with invading Crimea and keeping it?

What is wrong with currently shelling civilians deep inside Ukraine?

What is wrong with trying to assassinate the head of state in Montenegro as they sought membership in Nato? What bad has ever come out of an assassination in the Balkans?

What is wrong with giving your thugs in Ukraine a BUK missile they use to shoot down MH17?

What is wrong with having your cyber operatives cover up your involvement? what is wrong with messing with the investigation?

What is wrong with having an organized troll factory crapfloat EU social media with agipop?

What is wrong with keeping pro-Kremlin troll and accused rapist Assange afloat?

What is wrong with waging a year-long cyber war on the US election?

What is wrong with hacking computers belonging to two major parties in the US with the intention of disrupting the election?

What is wrong with hacking infrastructure related to the US election? (voting databases)

What is wrong with colluding with right-wing parties across Europe? What bad has ever come out of right-wing extremism on the European continent?

What is wrong with exporting Islamists to ISIS in Syria? Surely this is in everyones best interest

What is wrong with killing a few journalists here and there?

What is wrong with that? Cold war ended 25 years ago...

491

What is your opinion of the news media?

by minimus in

to me they have an agenda and they really don't care about professional journalism.

most are untrustworthy and that's a shame.

bohm

SBF: Very good clip, watched it last week and forgot about it.

Rationalization can go as follows: Obama called ISIS the enemy of the American people. ISIS has a propaganda channel which employs journalists. Case closed.

491

What is your opinion of the news media?

by minimus in

to me they have an agenda and they really don't care about professional journalism.

most are untrustworthy and that's a shame.

bohm

Simon:

but do you think it is right?

491

What is your opinion of the news media?

by minimus in

to me they have an agenda and they really don't care about professional journalism.

most are untrustworthy and that's a shame.

bohm

Re. Trump he:

Use a general label for "the media" which imply it is telling untrue stories "fake news" (compare to Lugenspress). This label is used by Trump and people near to him to deflect cretique.
Label the media both his "enemy" and "the enemy of the people"
Has started collecting money to "fight" the media in an organized manner

These are simply not things a person with respect for democracy does. "enemy of the people" is 100% chekist slogan, I will refer you to the early days of the Russian revolution on that one.

Re. the comparison to Obama: A thing I have noticed is that critique of Trump is nearly never addressed, but rather it is deflected by saying: but whatabout...

Why is that? Have we given up on finding a solid moral grounding on which to evaluate our views on? Interestingly, this tactic is the bread-and-butter of the Russian TV propaganda.

How is this different than when a JW is pointed to difficulties in JW org and he says: Yes, but look at the state of the world's political systems...

491

What is your opinion of the news media?

by minimus in

to me they have an agenda and they really don't care about professional journalism.

most are untrustworthy and that's a shame.

bohm

freemindfade: I don't see him any more volatile than modern leftists though lol.

So you are saying that far-left SJW type leftist crybabies are ridiculous... and Trump is just about as ridiculous as they are...

I guess I agree with that ;-).

491

What is your opinion of the news media?

by minimus in

to me they have an agenda and they really don't care about professional journalism.

most are untrustworthy and that's a shame.

Simon: I am really not that biased ;-). Clinton was subject to FBI investigations, and I actually think it was a good thing she got investigated considering what was at stake (I just think the reporting of her investigations were disproportional with what was found). Now Trump and the people around him are being investigated which I also think is a good thing. I don't assume guilt in the case of Trump and I don't think it is proven yet.

I don't think this will be a multi-year thing so we will have to see what comes to light in the coming months, then I guess we can see if the alt or MSM was more accurate.

491

What is your opinion of the news media?

by minimus in

to me they have an agenda and they really don't care about professional journalism.

most are untrustworthy and that's a shame.

bohm

Minimus: I wouldn't call the Russian thing fake just yet. New things are coming to light every day and Trump is the subject of 3 separate FBI probes. Just today alone two very interesting interviews surfaced and another(!!!) person connected to the Steele Dossier died.

I am withholding judgment, but many of the things I read a month ago and wondered if they were crackpottery or not are now in the mainstream media being confirmed.

491

What is your opinion of the news media?

by minimus in

to me they have an agenda and they really don't care about professional journalism.

most are untrustworthy and that's a shame.

bohm

JW_rogue: I am not sure I am following you... Wikileaks is part of the Russian disinformation campaign. Russia bankrolled Assange ca. 2012 with a deal on RT today and since then he haven't said a peep against Russia, whereas various "leaks" (FSB cyberoperations) have made their way onto wikileaks.

I am not sure I understand the Obama/zuckerberg angle... I know they visited China, but what does that have to do with the Russian campaign?

491

What is your opinion of the news media?

by minimus in

to me they have an agenda and they really don't care about professional journalism.

most are untrustworthy and that's a shame.

bohm

JW_rogue: According to mainstream sources, the Russian troll-network encompass about 1000 full-time trolls, a pro-kremlin propaganda channel (RT today) and wikileaks; I would invite you to read the CIA/FBI/NSA report for details. It is difficult to compute the effect of that kind of media coverage but I believe that according to internal GOP models the last "email" scandal was what gave Trump the win and the emails were certainly an integral part of the disinformation campaign (keep in mind Assange/wikileaks is compromised).

We can't know what effect it had for certain, I agree, but that it had some effect seems obvious to me. I don't think Putin would have risked it if he believed it was pointless.

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What did President Trump say about Sweden?

by kpop in

this you will never see on the mainstream media.

before you comment watch the whole video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqaigeqxqgi.

bohm

some still associate it as an "oppressed group" and that means they are "good"

I don't want you to call out anyone in particular, but I would honestly be interested in a link in a PM to someone who says so on this forum because I can't recall seeing that view... I might have missed something.