Could we not once and for all agree that when we say: "Christians do X" and Muslims do Y" we are engaging in the fallacy of composition?
Posts by bohm
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Number of Muslims protesting London terrorist attack = ZERO. Number of Muslims protesting forced Mosque closure in France = HUNDREDS
by kpop inso it is now two days after another islamic terrorist attack.
how many muslims are in the streets protesting and condemning this evil?
how many are marching in all the big cities condemning this in mass protests?.
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Have you ever believed something that turned out to be wrong?
by slimboyfat inapart, of course, from the obvious example of believing the evidence-free assertion of the governing body to be god's representatives on earth.
not to side-step that issue, but i wonder if it might be interesting to relate that huge mistake to other things i've been wrong about and how they compare and contrast with the big one.
a couple of examples of things i was wrong about:.
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bohm
RT: Well, reason suggests that if you can put a lander on the moon, which is large enough to hold life-support systems plus astronauts, you can also put astronauts inside it before you fly it to the moon...
Regarding your reasons
the moon is loaded with valuable mineral resources including large deposits of silicon, iron, aluminum, magnesium, titaniu
Too expensive to transport.
There is a natural barrier. Perhaps the van allen belt of radiation is just too intense for any proposed spacecraft to protect its occupants from
false (google it)
The scientific research that could be conducted is also immense: there is plenty of room up there for particle accelerators much larger, and thus much more productive, than CERN
to expensive to build, see above.
Another issue is the incredible number of errors and inconsistencies that can be found if one combs through the photographic records of the Apollo missions.
these are easily explained by the specifics of the physics on moon & 1960 camera technology. Often these inconsistencies on reaffirm the authenticity of the photos.
Raw materials, even water (in the form of ice; and also hydrogen trapped in carbonaceous chondrites) and oxygen (in the form of oxides) are surprisingly plentiful on the moon.
water is literally falling from the sky on earth. from the moon, it would costs many thousands of dollars per pound in trnasportation alone, nevermind cost to etablish a colony.
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Saying "CNN is fake news" is fake news
by Coded Logic incnn has the highest rated accuracy level out of any cable network.
okay, so that's not setting the bar very high.
but i see people on this forum bashing cnn ad nauseam.
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bohm
Good question. I have wondered about that myself and it seems that the typical response is
- a mix of annoyance that a well-established fact is being questioned (a bit like how you would respond to someone who questioned if Kennedy was actually shot)
- a reference to some news story that was wrong; missing the obvious point single stories can't answer the wider question fo accuracy
- retreating to the alternative claim that the CNN is "biased" and at the very least as bad as outlet X.
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Have you ever believed something that turned out to be wrong?
by slimboyfat inapart, of course, from the obvious example of believing the evidence-free assertion of the governing body to be god's representatives on earth.
not to side-step that issue, but i wonder if it might be interesting to relate that huge mistake to other things i've been wrong about and how they compare and contrast with the big one.
a couple of examples of things i was wrong about:.
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bohm
That photo was taken by NASA. Also, I'm not disputing the unmanned missions. Objects could have been sent to the moon. My issue is with the moon landings.
...there are also other telescopes that have taken pictures of the lander.
I am confused now. You claim that NASA flew the lunar lander onto the moon, left a rover on the moon, left mirrors that can be measured to exist by laser on the moon, but they just didn't include a human in the lander?
In other words, Is the lander on the moon or not? (pictures would suggest it is), and if so, when did it get there?
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Have you ever believed something that turned out to be wrong?
by slimboyfat inapart, of course, from the obvious example of believing the evidence-free assertion of the governing body to be god's representatives on earth.
not to side-step that issue, but i wonder if it might be interesting to relate that huge mistake to other things i've been wrong about and how they compare and contrast with the big one.
a couple of examples of things i was wrong about:.
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bohm
If man did not land on the moon, when was the lunar module placed on the moon?
http://www.space.com/14874-apollo-11-landing-site-moon-photo.html
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incident going on in central london
by Ruby456 inunfolding now - could be terrorist.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/22/man-shot-police-outside-parliament-officer-reportedly-shoots/.
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bohm
Why would it be tricky to strip British-born Jihadis of their citizenship?
I just said I don't know the specifics. If you are interested in this topic, why not try google? I mean, it is your countries laws after all right?
In many countries, mine included, removing citizenship for people born citizens of a given country is very difficult, whereas putting them in jail is relatively easy.
I don't want to derail this topic out of respect of the victims so I will bow out of this discussion.
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incident going on in central london
by Ruby456 inunfolding now - could be terrorist.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/22/man-shot-police-outside-parliament-officer-reportedly-shoots/.
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bohm
luhe: I think it is tricky to take away citizenship to people who were born British citizens but I don't know the specifics...
I think a better solution is to pass a law that when you fight for something like ISIS, you are making yourself guilty of the crimes committed by ISIS as well as treason against the UK. in my country, you are legally under the same rules regardless which side you are fighting on in Syria and I think that is insane. going to fight for ISIS should be a 10 year+ stint in prison.
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incident going on in central london
by Ruby456 inunfolding now - could be terrorist.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/22/man-shot-police-outside-parliament-officer-reportedly-shoots/.
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bohm
That's the point of border control, to keep dangerous people outside the UK.
That is true.
And the point of intelligence services/police is to investigate and keep track of UK citizens traveling on legal UK papers who are returning from the battlefield abroad.
We can now keep explaining the obvious to each other...
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Shocking Admission on Univision: Obama Policy Led To Rockville Rape
by Hecce inshocking admission on univision: obama policy led to rockville rape.
by jorge bonilla | march 22, 2017 | 1:06 am edt.
below is a full transcript of the above referenced segment as it aired on noticiero univision on march 21st, 2017.. maria elena salinas, univision anchor: well...much indignation has been caused by the brutal rape of a student- a young student that...had been abused by some central american teenagers.
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bohm
This OP is rank race baiting.
Welcome to Hecces posts, but he can do much better. Here is he promoting the racist stereotype all middle easterners wish to kill us
The Middle Easterners want to chop our heads and our other neighbors don't show much respect for us;
(then there was a picture of a mexican man grapping his crotch)Yep, we are down to the real old-fashioned racism.
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incident going on in central london
by Ruby456 inunfolding now - could be terrorist.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/22/man-shot-police-outside-parliament-officer-reportedly-shoots/.
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bohm
Simon:
The mistake you are making is to take "no massive attack ... yet" as being evidence that "there can be no massive attack ... ever".
Well, I believe no such thing.
Please! You have called me out for reading things into your posts, now you are doing that to me.
Obviously this shows how important it is to place extra surveillance on more competent Jihadis such as those who will be returning to the UK after the Islamic state finally fails as they have real weapons training and know how to make bombs.
I don't agree with Muslim Mayor of London that "oh well, you just have to accept it".
I only think that is true in the same sense we have to accept pedophilia.