SBF: At least with the book study, we don't have to begin with the discussion with an argument over whether it might not have been dropped at all.
Posts by bohm
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80President Trump launches missile strike against Syria
by jwleaks inpesident trump authorized the missile strike because “it is in the vital, national security interest of the united states to prevent and deter the use of deadly chemical weapons.” .
59 tomahawk missiles were launched from two us navy ships.. russia has condemned the action.. https://youtu.be/4svp3yfneyq.
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President Trump launches missile strike against Syria
by jwleaks inpesident trump authorized the missile strike because “it is in the vital, national security interest of the united states to prevent and deter the use of deadly chemical weapons.” .
59 tomahawk missiles were launched from two us navy ships.. russia has condemned the action.. https://youtu.be/4svp3yfneyq.
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bohm
LUHE: Okay let me see if I understand you right: Your position is that
- We don't know who made the gas attack, or even if it was some kind of accident
- Yet Trump is very right to attack Assad for the gas attacks
- Assad is a very bad person and war criminal...
- ...who we should work with...
- ...so the goal of the attacks is not to remove or severely weaken Assad...
- ...but rather to warn him in advance and blow up a few broken airplanes and other equipment he did not remove
- this will not remove Assad, or prevent him from carrying out more attacks (which we don't know if he did), but it is still A Very Good Thing
Did I understand you correctly?
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President Trump launches missile strike against Syria
by jwleaks inpesident trump authorized the missile strike because “it is in the vital, national security interest of the united states to prevent and deter the use of deadly chemical weapons.” .
59 tomahawk missiles were launched from two us navy ships.. russia has condemned the action.. https://youtu.be/4svp3yfneyq.
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bohm
Simon: First, we need to know whether gas was definitely used, who used it and who supplied it
There is a lot of misinformation and propaganda making the rounds. Russian propaganda claims it is the rebels/nothing happened, Iran that it is the jews... I believe the evidence is quite strong Assad did it. Even if you simply think about who has the means and that is what Pentagon believes as well, presumably operating from much better sources than we have.
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President Trump launches missile strike against Syria
by jwleaks inpesident trump authorized the missile strike because “it is in the vital, national security interest of the united states to prevent and deter the use of deadly chemical weapons.” .
59 tomahawk missiles were launched from two us navy ships.. russia has condemned the action.. https://youtu.be/4svp3yfneyq.
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bohm
While I admire Trump for actually doing the right thing in this instance and standing up to Assad & Putin, I'm not so sure it will be good in the long term. I'll wait and see.
For months I have explained Russia was supporting Assad in fighting the western-backed insurgents. This support has extended to bombing their positions by the Russian air force. You have come back with the tired old line that "it is either Assad or ISIS" and therefore this is okay.
Now Assad is using weapons of mass destruction and ... now it is good to bomb Assad?
Was is your position? do we keep Assad or support the forces who are trying to remove him (in this case, the rebels backed by the international coalition)
Is your position we should bomb Assad a bit, but not so much it really threatens his regime?
If you maintain the best course of action is to support Assad, as you have said previously, what good does it do to make a few potholes in an airport?
In the meantime, well done to Trump for showing some guts and straightforwardly standing up to Assad & Putin by striking a Syrian base. I'm sure you agree.
Trump is not showing "guts". He did a 180 (see the tweets I posted) because it was convenient, not because anything changed about the situation.
Obama dropped 12000 bombs on Syria the past years and tried to meaningfully remove or weaken Assad all while Trump was crying this was meaningless, now all of a sudden he made a single airport half-operational and it is treated like D-day. In reality, 60 pieces of ordinance don't change anything.
It makes a refreshing change from Obama's weak, cowardly actions in Syria
Oh so now you DO support removal of Assad and backing of the insurgents?
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President Trump launches missile strike against Syria
by jwleaks inpesident trump authorized the missile strike because “it is in the vital, national security interest of the united states to prevent and deter the use of deadly chemical weapons.” .
59 tomahawk missiles were launched from two us navy ships.. russia has condemned the action.. https://youtu.be/4svp3yfneyq.
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bohm
Wow. Wait until this guy hear about Trumps attacks on Syria...
https://wonkette.com/615159/trump-outraged-obama-took-his-advice-and-didnt-bomb-hell-out-of-syria
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President Trump launches missile strike against Syria
by jwleaks inpesident trump authorized the missile strike because “it is in the vital, national security interest of the united states to prevent and deter the use of deadly chemical weapons.” .
59 tomahawk missiles were launched from two us navy ships.. russia has condemned the action.. https://youtu.be/4svp3yfneyq.
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bohm
Where is LUHE? The images of gassed children make me wish for some reassuring Assad is really a very sensible guy we should really work with in order of defeating the Islamic state. After all, backing a middle-eastern dictator who gassed his own population has never backfired no?
More on topic, it seems that (a) Syrians are psychic or (b) someone tipped them off. I wonder how that could have happened..
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Susan Rice Sought Names of Trump Associates in Intel?
by freemindfade inhttps://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-04-03/top-obama-adviser-sought-names-of-trump-associates-in-intel.
what can we make of this?
rice is on record being a racist and lying about benghazi, now this?
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bohm
Can you believe it? I was pulled over for running a red light and the cop FREKKIN' RAN MY NUMBER PLATE.
If the cop ran my number plate for some reason unrelated to running the red light, that would be totally illegal. Sure, I don't have any proof of this, but I can speculate because I don't know his reasons either. The bottom line is that this MIGHT be an ILLEGAL invasion of my privacy provided I assume he didn't do it because it is his job.
Investigations should be started...
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1,000 Paid Russian Trolls Spread Fake News On Hillary Clinton, Senate Intelligence Heads Told
by Village Idiot injust when you thought you've heard it all, out comes some new information on the russian hijacking of our election.
former fbi agent clint watts testified about the full extent of russian interference.
it goes back further than we thought; more extensive and broader in its reach (marco rubio was in their sights); and with greater planning.. even russians who were in charge of this fake news operation have mysteriously died.. watts told the committee to “follow the dead bodies” to learn more, referring to several russians connected to kremlin fake news who have died in the past few months.. what else can we expect from such a murderous thug who expresses such gratitude to his own men?
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bohm
There are some interesting theories making the rounds. One is that the hacked voter databases (mentioned in the original intelligence report) may have been used for targeted ads in places like Michigan.
Because it is Friday, here is a video of Trump being asked about Flynn at a bill-signing ceremony, then leaves the room without signing the bill.
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Mathematically Measuring Evolution.
by towerwatchman inmathematically measuring evolution.. when judging relationships in terms of morphological characteristics we will always be bound by the subjective.
morphologically one cannot exactly measure the distance between two organisms strictly in mathematical terms.
using the standard method of taxonomy we cannot quantify the difference between a horse and a mouse, or know which is closer mouse to cat, or mouse to fish.
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It is estimated that it would take 10X10^21 mutations to get five condons to mutate in the right order.
1) Just for my own sake, how do you compute this number?
2) How does this number disprove evolution? (what is the full argument as to why this computation shows Humans and Chimps do not have a shared ancestor)
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Number of Muslims protesting London terrorist attack = ZERO. Number of Muslims protesting forced Mosque closure in France = HUNDREDS
by kpop inso it is now two days after another islamic terrorist attack.
how many muslims are in the streets protesting and condemning this evil?
how many are marching in all the big cities condemning this in mass protests?.
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bohm
Once again, it's intellectually dishonest to claim Islam is being currently reformed when you can count reformers on the fingers of your hands and these people need police protection to stop Muslims from killing them.
Well, wanna bet 100$ I can find more than 10 Muslim reformers?
The reformation of Christianity in medieval times also started with few people. Anyway, my claim was that there are Muslim moderates. Since you describe Nawaz as, in your words, "a Sunni Muslim who is reformed", this seems to hold up.
That I agree with Ali that reform should be a key component in combatting Islamic extremism, and you believe that it should have a greater focus on military and working with Putin, is not really something we are going to settle. I wonder how such a military strategy should be carried out in practice, i.e. who should be invaded and in which order (Iran, Iraq, Saudi-Arabia, Marocco, Indonesia, ...) but I am becoming too tired of this discussion to really ask: military and bombs it is. I wonder if you imagine that you yourself will fight in these wars, or it is better left for others.
A first step in the Putin strategy could be to ask Putin to sometimes deliver defective weapons to anti-US insurgents:
http://www.npr.org/2017/02/13/515020244/why-is-russia-helping-anti-u-s-insurgents-in-afghanistan
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/03/putin-may-be-supplying-taliban-general-says/
