Posts by bohm

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Number of Muslims protesting London terrorist attack = ZERO. Number of Muslims protesting forced Mosque closure in France = HUNDREDS

by kpop in

so it is now two days after another islamic terrorist attack.

how many muslims are in the streets protesting and condemning this evil?

how many are marching in all the big cities condemning this in mass protests?.

bohm

Simon:

Does a Christian have to choose between supporting LBGT rights and being a good Christian?
Yes. I applaud people who chose common sense civility over the bigotry from ancient religious books but let's be honest, they are not following those books.

Well, I agree, you aren't following the simplest interpretation of the bible if you are a Christian and support LGBT rights. But this still does not answer my question: Can a person support LGBT rights and still be a good Christians?

I believe so...

Well, the question is not which standards some people use, but which standards we should use.
Wow, so you get to appoint yourself head of all Islam to decide everything? Good for you!

Where did I do that? Can you quote me?

I believe you are the one on this thread who is explaining me what "a good Muslim" is.

If you bother to educate yourself, you will see that Islam is very, very, very clear on what being "a good muslim" entails. That is one of the problems, it's impossible to re-write or re-interpret as it's so simple:
Kill any non-believers. Rape their women, take as many as you want. Humiliate them. Butcher them. Wage Jihad.

Well, I have read the Quran so there..

The bible is also clear on the LGBT issue and it takes a lot of gymnastics to get around that. I don't believe that means you can't be a "good christian" and support gay rights.

If you accept that you can't be "a good Muslim" and read the Quran according to a literal, bloodthirsty interpretation according to which someone like Majiid Newaz is a poor Muslim then, well, I disagree with you similar to how I believe you can be a "good jew" without being orthodox...

This idea, that the hard-core muslims are the real muslims, is an important part of ISIS propaganda as well as the idea that a Muslim without veil is not a "real" muslim... I think ISIS is wrong on that too.

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Number of Muslims protesting London terrorist attack = ZERO. Number of Muslims protesting forced Mosque closure in France = HUNDREDS

by kpop in

so it is now two days after another islamic terrorist attack.

how many muslims are in the streets protesting and condemning this evil?

how many are marching in all the big cities condemning this in mass protests?.

bohm

"Here in Canada we have Justin Trudeau who's government is backing moves to make criticism of Islam a crime. "
So I looked that up, and what the actual f....!! I officially don't like him anymore.

Can I see a verifiable link to this? It would be a very big set back for free speech in Canada...

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Number of Muslims protesting London terrorist attack = ZERO. Number of Muslims protesting forced Mosque closure in France = HUNDREDS

by kpop in

so it is now two days after another islamic terrorist attack.

how many muslims are in the streets protesting and condemning this evil?

how many are marching in all the big cities condemning this in mass protests?.

bohm

Masjid is one of the good ones (by western values) but a bad one (by islamists standards).

Well, the question is not which standards some people use, but which standards we should use.

Do you agree with Simon that:

That's the big difference with Islam - to be a good Muslim you have to be a butcher and a rapist.

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Number of Muslims protesting London terrorist attack = ZERO. Number of Muslims protesting forced Mosque closure in France = HUNDREDS

by kpop in

so it is now two days after another islamic terrorist attack.

how many muslims are in the streets protesting and condemning this evil?

how many are marching in all the big cities condemning this in mass protests?.

bohm

LUHE:

What is your point? Do you think he is a bad muslim?

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Number of Muslims protesting London terrorist attack = ZERO. Number of Muslims protesting forced Mosque closure in France = HUNDREDS

by kpop in

so it is now two days after another islamic terrorist attack.

how many muslims are in the streets protesting and condemning this evil?

how many are marching in all the big cities condemning this in mass protests?.

bohm

One could say the Muslims are imitating what the Trump supporters did after the Quebec Mosque attack by a Trump supporter.

Not that I don't think a demonstration against religiously/politically motivated violence would be a good thing in either case.

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Number of Muslims protesting London terrorist attack = ZERO. Number of Muslims protesting forced Mosque closure in France = HUNDREDS

by kpop in

so it is now two days after another islamic terrorist attack.

how many muslims are in the streets protesting and condemning this evil?

how many are marching in all the big cities condemning this in mass protests?.

bohm

To the people who voted down my previous post about the fallacy of composition. I hope one of those brave souls would explain if they voted down my post because it is somehow not the fallacy of composition to say "Muslims do X" when plainly only a subset of Muslims do X, or because they simply think it is an inconvenient point.

I am going to assume the later...

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Number of Muslims protesting London terrorist attack = ZERO. Number of Muslims protesting forced Mosque closure in France = HUNDREDS

by kpop in

so it is now two days after another islamic terrorist attack.

how many muslims are in the streets protesting and condemning this evil?

how many are marching in all the big cities condemning this in mass protests?.

bohm

That's the big difference with Islam - to be a good Muslim you have to be a butcher and a rapist.

Well, at least here you have found some common ground with Dabiq: You are either not a good Muslim, are you adhere to the darkest interpretation of Islam known to mankind. Muslims in the west, make your choice!

Is a Christian only a good Christian if he adheres to a literal interpretation of the bible? Does a Christian have to choose between supporting LBGT rights and being a good Christian?

Which sect of Christianity contains the 'Good Christians'?

"A bad Muslim".

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Number of Muslims protesting London terrorist attack = ZERO. Number of Muslims protesting forced Mosque closure in France = HUNDREDS

by kpop in

so it is now two days after another islamic terrorist attack.

how many muslims are in the streets protesting and condemning this evil?

how many are marching in all the big cities condemning this in mass protests?.

bohm

Could we not once and for all agree that when we say: "Christians do X" and Muslims do Y" we are engaging in the fallacy of composition?

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Have you ever believed something that turned out to be wrong?

by slimboyfat in

apart, of course, from the obvious example of believing the evidence-free assertion of the governing body to be god's representatives on earth.

not to side-step that issue, but i wonder if it might be interesting to relate that huge mistake to other things i've been wrong about and how they compare and contrast with the big one.

a couple of examples of things i was wrong about:.

bohm

RT: Well, reason suggests that if you can put a lander on the moon, which is large enough to hold life-support systems plus astronauts, you can also put astronauts inside it before you fly it to the moon...

Regarding your reasons

the moon is loaded with valuable mineral resources including large deposits of silicon, iron, aluminum, magnesium, titaniu

Too expensive to transport.

There is a natural barrier. Perhaps the van allen belt of radiation is just too intense for any proposed spacecraft to protect its occupants from

false (google it)

The scientific research that could be conducted is also immense: there is plenty of room up there for particle accelerators much larger, and thus much more productive, than CERN

to expensive to build, see above.

Another issue is the incredible number of errors and inconsistencies that can be found if one combs through the photographic records of the Apollo missions.

these are easily explained by the specifics of the physics on moon & 1960 camera technology. Often these inconsistencies on reaffirm the authenticity of the photos.

Raw materials, even water (in the form of ice; and also hydrogen trapped in carbonaceous chondrites) and oxygen (in the form of oxides) are surprisingly plentiful on the moon.

water is literally falling from the sky on earth. from the moon, it would costs many thousands of dollars per pound in trnasportation alone, nevermind cost to etablish a colony.

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Saying "CNN is fake news" is fake news

by Coded Logic in

cnn has the highest rated accuracy level out of any cable network.

okay, so that's not setting the bar very high.

but i see people on this forum bashing cnn ad nauseam.

bohm

Good question. I have wondered about that myself and it seems that the typical response is

a mix of annoyance that a well-established fact is being questioned (a bit like how you would respond to someone who questioned if Kennedy was actually shot)
a reference to some news story that was wrong; missing the obvious point single stories can't answer the wider question fo accuracy
retreating to the alternative claim that the CNN is "biased" and at the very least as bad as outlet X.