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  UC Berkeley orders cancellation of Ann Coulter speech

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  uc berkeley administrators canceled a scheduled speech by right-wing pundit ann coulter, saying they can’t protect participants from rioting if it goes ahead.

  http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/uc-berkeley-orders-cancellation-of-ann-coulter-11084299.php.

  now i am no ann coulter fan (although the sjw police on here will accuse me of being a fan shortly after posting this), but i am a fan of free speech!

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  kpop: What do you feel about the white nationalists at the protests? are they also just good guys fighting them evil Marxists?
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  UC Berkeley orders cancellation of Ann Coulter speech

  by freemindfade in

  1. social
  2. current

  uc berkeley administrators canceled a scheduled speech by right-wing pundit ann coulter, saying they can’t protect participants from rioting if it goes ahead.

  http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/uc-berkeley-orders-cancellation-of-ann-coulter-11084299.php.

  now i am no ann coulter fan (although the sjw police on here will accuse me of being a fan shortly after posting this), but i am a fan of free speech!

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  My "premise" is wrong? lol. no, what have I written which is factually wrong?

  If we can agree I have written about factually true things then we can get to this so-called "premise".

  -Antifa came with weapons, dressed in all black, wearing masks
  -Trump supporters came with Trump signs and pro-free speech banners.

  Yes or no, was there right-wing activists, clad in black riot gear with weapons at the protests?
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  UC Berkeley orders cancellation of Ann Coulter speech

  by freemindfade in

  1. social
  2. current

  uc berkeley administrators canceled a scheduled speech by right-wing pundit ann coulter, saying they can’t protect participants from rioting if it goes ahead.

  http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/uc-berkeley-orders-cancellation-of-ann-coulter-11084299.php.

  now i am no ann coulter fan (although the sjw police on here will accuse me of being a fan shortly after posting this), but i am a fan of free speech!

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  FMF: The right is not instigating, you are trying to muddy up the issue to waste time bohm

  "Muddy up the issue" lol. What have I written which is false?

  Once again do we agree on the basic facts:

  • Right-wing activists participated in violence at the protests
  • They went there with weapons and riot gear; some got arrested for bringing weapons
  • there are images of them using weapons
  • Right-wing social media had prior been floated with instructions for how to bring concealed weapons to the protest and various incitements for violence against unpopular groups.

  Imagine how ridiculous I would seem if you could point to those three things for antifa and I somehow tried to claim that antifa did not "instigate" violence.

  Let me ask this clearly to get a feeling of your moral sensibilities: the white nationalist and convicted criminal thug who jumps out and punch a rather small woman in the face did he "instigate" violence?
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  UC Berkeley orders cancellation of Ann Coulter speech

  by freemindfade in

  1. social
  2. current

  uc berkeley administrators canceled a scheduled speech by right-wing pundit ann coulter, saying they can’t protect participants from rioting if it goes ahead.

  http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/uc-berkeley-orders-cancellation-of-ann-coulter-11084299.php.

  now i am no ann coulter fan (although the sjw police on here will accuse me of being a fan shortly after posting this), but i am a fan of free speech!

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  Kpop: Which things that I have actually written are false?

  I wrote that there was right-wing violence at the protests. I wrote that was organized online.

  FMF said it was bullshit.

  Seems like it is all true.

  So now the goalpost is moving and you guys appear to be doing the "I wouldn't do it, but..." routine

  Well good on you, but how does that invalidate anything I have written? A right-wing criminal punched a woman in the face during the protests we agree no?
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  UC Berkeley orders cancellation of Ann Coulter speech

  by freemindfade in

  1. social
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  uc berkeley administrators canceled a scheduled speech by right-wing pundit ann coulter, saying they can’t protect participants from rioting if it goes ahead.

  http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/uc-berkeley-orders-cancellation-of-ann-coulter-11084299.php.

  now i am no ann coulter fan (although the sjw police on here will accuse me of being a fan shortly after posting this), but i am a fan of free speech!

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  FMF: I personally would not have chosen to hit a 95-pound woman

  Okay so someone punched a woman in the face at the protests...

  It seems more and more like I was actually right there was right-wing violence, so why did you call that bullshit? Can you acknowledge I was right?

  Was it her own fault she got punched in the face by a right-wing white nationalist thug and convicted criminal? Are we really going there? You want to claim a large man, ex-marine white nationalist, is somehow justified in punching a woman because she is on the left?

  Once again we are having one of those conversations where I am 100% right on the facts and you go right on to the namecalling (dipshit) and the accusation I am somehow trying to derail a conversation, whatever that is, by posting accurate information you don't like.
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  UC Berkeley orders cancellation of Ann Coulter speech

  by freemindfade in

  1. social
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  uc berkeley administrators canceled a scheduled speech by right-wing pundit ann coulter, saying they can’t protect participants from rioting if it goes ahead.

  http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/uc-berkeley-orders-cancellation-of-ann-coulter-11084299.php.

  now i am no ann coulter fan (although the sjw police on here will accuse me of being a fan shortly after posting this), but i am a fan of free speech!

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  I remember the following line from Hitch22 (paraphrasing a lot from memory): A dictatorship will say: We do not hurt our citizens, and it is fully their own fault if we did.

  Now we have this line:

  It is bullshit to say there are violent right-wing protests at Berkley and it is the fault of the left there is.

  hmmmm
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  UC Berkeley orders cancellation of Ann Coulter speech

  by freemindfade in

  1. social
  2. current

  uc berkeley administrators canceled a scheduled speech by right-wing pundit ann coulter, saying they can’t protect participants from rioting if it goes ahead.

  http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/uc-berkeley-orders-cancellation-of-ann-coulter-11084299.php.

  now i am no ann coulter fan (although the sjw police on here will accuse me of being a fan shortly after posting this), but i am a fan of free speech!

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  bohm you are referring to the most recent events

  ...yes. Bravo for figuring that out...

  The idea of turing this to violence CLEARLY started with the left, and any alt right whatever repsonse to it, has been coming.

  ...so there was right wing violence and I was actually right?

  Do go on making excuses ;-). Notice how I don't excuse Antifa.

  
  
  
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  UC Berkeley orders cancellation of Ann Coulter speech

  by freemindfade in

  1. social
  2. current

  uc berkeley administrators canceled a scheduled speech by right-wing pundit ann coulter, saying they can’t protect participants from rioting if it goes ahead.

  http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/uc-berkeley-orders-cancellation-of-ann-coulter-11084299.php.

  now i am no ann coulter fan (although the sjw police on here will accuse me of being a fan shortly after posting this), but i am a fan of free speech!

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  Bohm: surely we agree that the violent demonstrations at Berkley had alt-right participation
  FMF: Bull shit

  Man this is ridiculous...

  So all the people who organized under alt-right twitter handles, showed up with alt-right slogans, wearing body armor, they were all leftists?

  Kyle Chapman, who is on camera punching a women in the head and who was arrested, who tweeted about how to bring concealed weapons to the demonstration, he is NOT affiliated with the alt-right?

  Is this a denial of reality or a no-true-Scotsman fallacy?
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  UC Berkeley orders cancellation of Ann Coulter speech

  by freemindfade in

  1. social
  2. current

  uc berkeley administrators canceled a scheduled speech by right-wing pundit ann coulter, saying they can’t protect participants from rioting if it goes ahead.

  http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/uc-berkeley-orders-cancellation-of-ann-coulter-11084299.php.

  now i am no ann coulter fan (although the sjw police on here will accuse me of being a fan shortly after posting this), but i am a fan of free speech!

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  Lately though all the nuts rioting have been leftist

  surely we agree that the violent demonstrations at Berkley had alt-right participation. I mean, Kyle Chapman (based stickman) was arrested at the demonstration and he is both alt-right and has been agitating for violence for a long time... There are many pictures of people with alt-right iconography fighting and Heiling online from Berkley.
  
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  UC Berkeley orders cancellation of Ann Coulter speech

  by freemindfade in

  1. social
  2. current

  uc berkeley administrators canceled a scheduled speech by right-wing pundit ann coulter, saying they can’t protect participants from rioting if it goes ahead.

  http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/uc-berkeley-orders-cancellation-of-ann-coulter-11084299.php.

  now i am no ann coulter fan (although the sjw police on here will accuse me of being a fan shortly after posting this), but i am a fan of free speech!

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  Alt-right activists at /pol/ discussing which weapons to bring along for the demonstration, who to beat up, how to make incendiary devices (I wonder when this becomes domestic terrorism?) amidst the usual racism, antisemitism, nazi cheering and sexism
  https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/122430598/