i am sitting at the recent assembly, bored out of my mind (have you ever heard anyone call these things fun?
) and the next speaker walks out on stage.
he starts off with an illustration.
Crap like that spoken from the platform was what finally helped my husband and I to walk out completely.
They willfully endanger children with the horrible advise the give their parents! How can anyone seriously down play the danger of a molester across the street?
sorry for the long post but i need help.
ive been a jw for 20 years - still active and attending meetings, baptised at 18, i have recently become very dissillusioned.
a few reasons: ill treatment of my kids by a prominent 'assembly speaker' elder, then my son left the truth at 15 (not baptised) and was 'dropped' instantly, despite this community having been his whole life for 15 years.
Great advise from everyone already. The only thing I can add is maybe you should follow your sons lead and get into some therapy yourself, it's has been extremely helpful for my young adults who struggle with many of the same things your son does.
Many of us have been where you are so we understand the roller coaster of emotions and fears. Use this place to vent ( it helps)
My thoughts are with you and your children.
deborah relates her experiences of being a jw in this bbc radio 4 broadcast.. deborah frances white - rolls the dice.
very funny and by and large very accurate.. fruit based economy indeed!.
a statement that phizzy made on jonathan drake's thread on flyers gave me the following ideas.. we should make a flyer on the issue of the watchtower pedophilia issue written with the object of alerting the public about the jw door to door activity.
phizzy suggested the title, "the paedophile at your door".. on that flyer should be the contact information of our most informed member on the subject who's willing to talk to the media.
barbara anderson perhaps?.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/187163/getting-my-ged-can-go-college.
i started this topic 5 years ago letting everyone know i had decide to get my ged and go to college in hopes of getting an education so that i could have a career instead of just a job.
i wanted fulfillment and a future, not just another job that has no really future in it.
http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/we-are-not-done-yet-candace-reacts-to-appeal-court-decision.
candace conti (pictured in her interview with abc) has spoken out for the first time about the appeal court decision.
as current and former jehovahs witnesses digest the news that watchtowers appeal against the candace conti verdict has faltered, albeit with the punitive element of the judgment reversed, candace has reacted for the first time by telling me: we are not done yet.. news spread on monday that the state appeals court in san francisco had upheld the $2.8 million compensatory damages in the original june 2012 verdict, but overturned the $8.6 million punitive award against watchtower.. the court decided that, though watchtower had neglected its responsibility to supervise known pedophile jonathan kendrick in field ministry, a church-sponsored activity, the organization had no duty to warn parents in the congregation that a pedophile was in their midst or report him to authorities.. an insightful report by investigative reporter trey bundy has suggested that the court reached its decision because the precedent set by the conti verdict might be too burdensome to enforce.. the burden would be considerable because the precedent could require a church to intervene whenever it has reason to believe that a congregation member is capable of doing harm, and the scope of that duty could not be limited with any precision, the judges wrote.. candaces attorney rick simons responded by pointedly telling bundy: they think in public policy terms that theres too much risk in broadening the churchs responsibility and liability so that it burdens what churches do.
Agreed Mrs. Flipper.
It's so frustrating!
http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/we-are-not-done-yet-candace-reacts-to-appeal-court-decision.
candace conti (pictured in her interview with abc) has spoken out for the first time about the appeal court decision.
as current and former jehovahs witnesses digest the news that watchtowers appeal against the candace conti verdict has faltered, albeit with the punitive element of the judgment reversed, candace has reacted for the first time by telling me: we are not done yet.. news spread on monday that the state appeals court in san francisco had upheld the $2.8 million compensatory damages in the original june 2012 verdict, but overturned the $8.6 million punitive award against watchtower.. the court decided that, though watchtower had neglected its responsibility to supervise known pedophile jonathan kendrick in field ministry, a church-sponsored activity, the organization had no duty to warn parents in the congregation that a pedophile was in their midst or report him to authorities.. an insightful report by investigative reporter trey bundy has suggested that the court reached its decision because the precedent set by the conti verdict might be too burdensome to enforce.. the burden would be considerable because the precedent could require a church to intervene whenever it has reason to believe that a congregation member is capable of doing harm, and the scope of that duty could not be limited with any precision, the judges wrote.. candaces attorney rick simons responded by pointedly telling bundy: they think in public policy terms that theres too much risk in broadening the churchs responsibility and liability so that it burdens what churches do.
http://www.revealnews.org/article/california-court-guts-child-abuse-ruling-against-jehovahs-witnesses/.
california court guts child abuse ruling against jehovahs witnesses.
topics: religion / religion and government .
So in other words there will most likely be a new policy on making sure a known( to them only) child molester must be watched? That's a joke! There is no way they can watch them 24/7 nor will they want to.
Now, if you give parents that information they will make sure their children stay away. As a parent of a child that was molested by a ex elder I'm completely frustrated with the judges words! No duty to warn?? Really?
I truly hope this was just because maybe the lawyers made the wrong argument in this case. I mean it makes me sad for Candace because she deserved every penny of the lower courts judgement but it frightens me to think this is how the law will stand. I'm I completely wrong here? I hope so.
No duty to warn! I'm still shaking my head.
Does any of the lawyer type here on this forum know if this decision will at all effect the latest judgement against the WTS( Lopez case) ?
so today i go and see my mother after a day at work and she tells me my oma phoned her from germany a couple days ago.
it was shortly after that i just dropped in that i sent her some flowers earlier that day for same day delivery.
it's her 81st birthday!.
i'm not an expert but that is my understanding of this: .
opinion filed.. (signed published) the judgment against defendants on the negligence count is affirmed.
the judgment against watchtower on the cause of action for punitive damages is reversed with directions to enter judgment for watchtower on punitive damages.
Thank you Candace Conti.
You stood up with such poise and grace!
This is a victory!! you have done what others were too fearful to do. I'm so grateful to you and your example of strength.
Is the fight over? Not even close...but you got the ball rolling. These policies WILL change you just wait and see. I don't care how stubborn those old men are they will be forced to do something, and as a result children will be a little safer in that religion. That is after all the most important thing.
I hope you take the money and live a beautiful happy life!
