@little_Socrates
I'm British and "soccer" (just called "football" here) is just a yawnfest to me. Mind you I am out of step with the majority of bladder-kicking Englishmen ...
in addition to the above question, why do citizens of the two above mentioned countries, or other countries, feel the necessity to tell americans how they should interpret the american constitution for localized issues?.
i fairly much have an idea what the general population in the usa feels in regards to the first question.
this could be one of the possible reasons cnn piers morgan poor ratings and eventual firing.
@little_Socrates
I'm British and "soccer" (just called "football" here) is just a yawnfest to me. Mind you I am out of step with the majority of bladder-kicking Englishmen ...
in addition to the above question, why do citizens of the two above mentioned countries, or other countries, feel the necessity to tell americans how they should interpret the american constitution for localized issues?.
i fairly much have an idea what the general population in the usa feels in regards to the first question.
this could be one of the possible reasons cnn piers morgan poor ratings and eventual firing.
It's not surprising - when Americans get bitter they cling to guns or religion or anti immigration sentiment or anti trade sentiment or antipathy to people who aren't like them as a way to justify their frustrations about themselves.
Brits are the same when they get bitter but they don't have any guns or so much religion to cling to - which is probably a good thing.
the 2014 grand totals page has been released onto facebook.. .
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i have started updating the statistics and graphs at jwfacts.com/watchtower/statistics.php, and will release highlights as i work through it during the rest of the day..
I do hope that 2014 is the high water mark. You know with all the hoopla about the 100th Birthday Anniversary celebrations and now all fading away to a new year and no armageddy.
A high peak in August 2014 coinciding with the international conventions and a final twitch of enthusiasm before more samey old meetings.
A high memorial peak as this "may be the last one ever" subliminal message.
More money grabbing.
A guy can dream eh?
does anyone else recall the big chart that hung at the front of every kingdom hall?.
it would be about 5 feet x 4 feet.
on the side of the chart, vertically listed, were the months of the year.
thank you for coming to my house so often because you were so concerned about me missing so many meetings.. ( actually, the only time you visited was when the circuit and district overseers were in town.
you really showed them how concerned you were about your sheep.
i now know that it is more of a duty than a concern.).
It's a little dance. They pretend they care and we pretend we wish they called more often.
if you are/were an active jw, you are now here on jwn so, for whatever your reasons, you woke up to some degree- hopefully a great degree.
so what i am saying may not apply to you.. i know that if i had not already left, i would have stormed out on the day they studied "overlapping generation.
" i am quite confident i couldn't have stayed for such an obvious switcharoo just to make the end seem imminent and try to explain how wts was wrong, but not entirely wrong in the past.. but i had to wonder how that change (or others) didn't cause most jw's to walk out.
>Leaving quietly
Doesn't "fill the earth" imply extending the boundaries of the garden of eden?
must be two years since i was on the board.
hope all are well.
i still go to the odd meeting.
Hello stilla - nice to hear from you again.
Tell me - do you still get folk saying they miss you as an elder and why don't you reach out again? I used to get that but as I resigned in 2004 I guess they've got the message.
i won't be there (fortunately) but perhaps my warm encouragement and hard work, in preparing these comments will help someone, who has the burden of attending the meetings, give a good un-witness.. 3. while on earth, how did jesus follow his fathers example?.
answer - jesus at john 9:4 gave us a very important reminder, he said "we must do the works of the one who sent me while it is day; the night is coming when no man can work.
" the figurative night that jesus was likely referencing was amos 5:18 where it says "woe to those who yearn for the day of jehovah!
Brilliant answers - straight over the heads of the sheep though.
Try this less subtle answer on para 10) What organizational adjustments have been made in recent times?
In 1995 The Organization (may it be praised) adjusted the view on "the generation that saw 1914 would not pass away"; it was changed to a contemporary generation and yet now it is an overlapping generation - this means that we must always keep up with Jehovah's chariot-like organization or we might still be preaching old light instead of new. And we would not want that would we? (No!)
Many of our parents' generation fervently believed they would be in the new system by now but instead they are now dead or sitting here in their wheelchairs, their aged and decrepit bodies holding out in the hope of seeing the great vindication of Jehovah's name. How thankful we are that Jehovah's day will be here so very soon!
But how heartwarming it is that the number of kingdom proclaimers has increased by over a million since the old light passed away! (Starting to froth at the mouth) Despite the fact that the world's population has increased by One Billion in the same time means that 999 million more will die at the great battle of Armageddon! How wonderful our Grand Creator wants all to be saved! Hooray!
Do you think that might get a few thinking before I get my trip to the back room courtesy of two elders?
i have been looking and finally saw the logo on the kh sign............. .
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Oh yeah, there is one on ours KH...... sigh.
freedon of religion guarantees any individual the legal right to abandon any religion at any time for any reason.. if you are a citizen of a country which champions human rights, then your government doesn t care what religion you join, but they will uphold your freedom to join it, without interference, coercion or persecution.
your countries human rights legislation will conversely uphold your rights when it comes time to abandon any religion you so choose.
those (elders) who incite others interfere, coerce or persecute those who have left will be in transgression of the human rights statutes.. a person is only obligated to ecclesiastic law if he exposes himself to it or transgressed it while still a member of a religious community.. when your time comes to abandon the jw-wt cult, do it while still in good standing, be proactive - be decisive -put it in writing!..and do it before the hounders set sights on you.. write a card or letter with as much or as little explanation as you one day might wish to share with pharisees and lawyers.. take this card to a notary public to have your signature witnessed and have the writing overstamped in several places with the date.
My advice - do not rely on any outside agency to fight the WT for you. If you want to go without being df'd then leave quietly and do not incriminate yourself by opening your mouth beyond saying you have decided not to discuss anything with anyone.
Of course if you want to go out with a bang then shout from the rooftops and write to everyone you have an address for. But if you do ... you willbe shunned.