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  Example of shunning

  by enigma1863 in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eueuwshs1cg&feature=youtu.be

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  freddo

  I wish that would go viral.

  That is how to do it. Dress fairly smartly - No shouting, no screeching, no banner waving - just a puzzled look and a mild manner and "not understanding" the (lack of) response.
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  God is busy with his property portfolio

  by snare&racket in

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  one way i managed to de-programme myself was to imagine the god of the universe being behind the desicions watchtower were making.

  it first came to me when barbara anderson described being in a lift in bethel discussing a property or land sale that didn't go through and her musing over gods involvement.. we are meant to believe that the god who made the universe is behind this...... http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/story/news/local/2015/05/12/jehovahs-witnesses-fishkill-tax-exemption/27206609/.

  it stinks of greed, business and grandiose expansion.

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  Luke 12: 16 - 21 talks about unnecessarily building bigger storehouses ... ... ...
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  Another Elevated Group of J.W.'s Now?

  by The Searcher in

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  why are only pioneers allowed to do "metropolitan witnessing"?

  why do they need "special training" to stand like a zombie for hours, speaking only to their fellow elite?.

  even a pioneer's mother couldn't answer me!.

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  freddo

  Explanation (in the UK):

  Special Metropolitan Witnessing is what is arranged at circuit level in a "big city". They typically choose areas near big shopping centres or railway stations to set up the carts.

  This has been the preserve of regular pioneers from surrounding congregations appointed by the Circuit Overseer (or more accurately he rubber stamps those collated by the dumb schmuck elder that gets to do all his menial work - in return for a bit part on the assembly program of course)

  Normal cart stuff is what any congregation organises outside the local shops or whatever and keen elders who want to do the same as the circuit overseer only use regular pioneers and maybe a few favourites like themselves and their wives if they want to bump their hours up. These are chosen by the Service Committee or the body of elders. More lax congregations let most of their publishers go on the carts unless they are really wackadoodle crazy.

  Cardiff in Wales (pop 300,000) has these SMPW set ups and they have just had a letter read out saying that Elders can recommend good non-pioneers for this work.
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  After 2 years my parents make contact. The end result is that I promise them to cryogenically preserve ONLY their heads

  by paulmolark in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it has been 2 and a half years since my departure from the religion.

  i was told by my parents from the start that i would never speak to them until i returned to jehovah dog.

  a few months later they told people they hoped i died before the end came, then all of this culminating in them telling my inactive / fading sister that they don't consider me a child anymore and they have given me up to satan.

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  @Paulmolark

  Is she able to act abusively to any other children? I note that point was picked up on by one therapist you mentioned. If so have you considered involving the authorities for what sounds like historic child abuse.

  Reminds me of the "lovely" JW Eunice Spry in England who's adult foster children finally took her to the authorities and she served 6 years in the slammer. Due out this month in fact.
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  California Supreme Court Case - S226656

  by Gayle in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/maincasescreen.cfm?dist=0&doc_id=2109889&doc_no=s226656&search=party&start=1&query_partylastnameororg=watchtower bible and tract.

  started 5/27/2015.

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  freddo

  Matt 23 v 23 - 25
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  California Supreme Court Case - S226656

  by Gayle in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/maincasescreen.cfm?dist=0&doc_id=2109889&doc_no=s226656&search=party&start=1&query_partylastnameororg=watchtower bible and tract.

  started 5/27/2015.

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  @Fisherman

  The Plaintiff wants the Defendants to be legally liable. Is that the same as wanting "what is in WT deep pocket."? Might the Plaintiff not have had "what is in WT deep pocket." by settling out of court?
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  Amateurs Built the Ark

  by enigma1863 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  are you familiar with the motto "professionals built the titanic amateurs built the ark?".

  i find it somewhat annoying.

  i've been looking for a good analogy like amelia earhart was a professional pilot dorothy was just a girl from kansas but she got back home..

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  How do we know that Noah didn't use contract-labour to help him build the Ark?
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  2015 Convention

  by wifibandit in

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  pixel, cappytan, and wifibandit present for your consideration:.

  https://youtu.be/g16_p3tncxq?list=plrw9u-n1z2m-_z5_a55vmqj1biuwnslhq.

  the saturday program will be added tomorrow, followed by the sunday program the next day..

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  Bit off topic but anyone know how baptizms are going at the 2015 regionals - up, down or about the same?
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  The Reason Why Jehovah's Witnesses Will Never Prosper Is The Children

  by minimus in

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  i believe that the religion will remain stagnant due to their achilles heel, the kids, the children, that next generation.. most of them really don't wa t to be in the religion.

  the parents may have tried everything within their power to make the kids love jehovah but we all know you can't force someone to love you and you can't make a grown person stay in a relationship or situation if they really don't want to be there..

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  freddo

  What Finkelstein just said.

  And the internet is so much more accessible now. Kids in their early teens have in their hands (phones, tablets etc) instant access to the net. Ten years ago they would have had to use the family computer and looked over their shoulders.
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  If Women were elders, would it make a difference in the organization?

  by John Aquila in

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  2. beliefs

  imagine three single sisters who qualified to be appointed as elders in the congregation.

  they qualified because they started reaching out in their early teens.

  persistently and methodically they worked their way through the ranks by pioneering then becoming a m.s.

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  freddo

  We in the UK had Margaret Thatcher as Prime Minister. Not for nothing was she known - and sometimes admired - as the "Iron Lady". But in 1982 when her son got "lost" in the Dakar North African rally for 6 days did she get distressed? Oh yes.

  Denis Thatcher on the other hand was reported as saying of his son ... "he'll turn up - give him a beer and a sandwich a wash and a shave and he'll be fine."

  And he did.

  Women elders? OK until the nepotism for their own children raises it's head and then watch'em squeal.