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  What woke you up?

  by Israel Ricky Gonzales in

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  2. experiences

  in march of 2014, i was a very active jw, a ministerial servant, gave a public talk, was an attendant for the memorial, and one of 4 cleaning captains for an international convention of 40,000+ attendees.

  so what woke me up?

  an innocent comment from a co-worker about the candice conti court case rang a bell that could not be unrung.

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  freddo

  >deanxxx

  Welcome if no one has said it before.

  "Unkindness masquerading as virtue" - nicely put.
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  The news just keeps getting worse. Prepare yourself.

  by Esse quam videri in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  rcmp reports for july 14 to 20 .

  wilkie, saskatchewan, rcmp reports for july 14 to 20.

  - rcmp received a complaint of individuals loitering behind a business.

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  freddo

  Verily I say unto thee - Armageddon is nigh!
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  Introducing Myself

  by Peony in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i've finally got round to joining the site (after over 2 years lurking!

  i was born into jws, pioneered for 10 years (met my husband at pioneer school).

  had health issues that saw me catapulted away from 'the centre of the cong' and wow what a different place that was!

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  freddo

  Hello Peony, welcome.

  Do you mind me asking where you are from? Sounds like you're a non-US English writer like me.
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  Did Geoffrey Jackson Commit Perjury, or Just "Spiritual Warfare"?

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  mr. jackson was pressured by angus stewart to answer if the org condoned corporal punishment, to which he openly stated that the org does not condone corporal punishment for j.w.

  children.

  this "fact" has never been revealed in the org's literature, in fact, this article which was published under geoffrey jackson's supervision, by definition demonstrates the org's approval of corporal punishment for j.w.

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  freddo

  @Bungibill

  I remember that about Sweden too. I'm from the UK and in the late 70's UK it was normal to whack your kids in or out of jw's. But not with belts or sticks or in a frenzied way.

  But ... some context.

  In the UK in my Infants' and Junior school (ages 5 - 7 and 7 - 11) in the 1960's and early 70's female teachers would make you roll up your sleeve and slap you on the underside of your forearm or on the hand with their hand. Usually only once. (As in one slap at a time)

  In the Junior School a 12" ruler might be used if you were particularly "naughty". Say theft or beating up a fellow pupil.

  In my senior school (ages 11-16) in the 1970's the girls never got corporal punishment but the boys might get the "gym-shoe" from one of the games teachers which was like getting a slipper across your backside one, two or three times.
  

  If you were really bad (like lashing out at a teacher or constantly swearing at a teacher) then the headmaster might use the cane. Only once did I hear of this when a 15 year old boy in my class from a disadvantaged background swore at and hit a female teacher. We all knew when he was going to get "six of the best" after assembly but in private and then he was expelled.

  But corporal punishment in UK state schools was dying out by then and in 1987 it was forbidden in state run schools and in 1999 in private (strangely called public schools) schools.
  

  A case was brought before the European Court of Human rights in 1993 and they ruled that giving a seven year old "three whacks with a gym-shoe over his trousers was not a forbidden degrading punishment"
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  UK Convention Stats

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  birmingham uk regional convention which finished yesterday had attendances between about 8500 and 9500, and had 28 baptized.

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  freddo

  0.3% approx - so if the circuit assemblies were the same what does that amount to? 0.9% in a year?

  Less the deaths - say 0.9% for the UK

  Those that leave or dfd? - lets be kind and say 0.5%

  Are there more unbaptized publishers leaving than joining as well? Don't know.

  I reckon that despite all the trolley hype (or because of it) there was a small decrease or no increase in the UK this year but I bet it's fudged to show 1% or something.
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  Paul Grundy being interviewed on ABC 612 right now

  by Anonymous1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.abc.net.au/radio/stations/local_brisbane/live?play=true

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  freddo

  What would the listener numbers likely be for this program?
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  Everything is back on track

  by sp74bb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  especially to those who know me in person, i wanted to share with you my joy today.. i spoke today very long with my jw family of my position (away from the org, separated and gay), without any criticism or attack or threat.

  quite an achievement.. why about this change?

  parents age is moving them to see the reality of the situation.

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  I saw them there at a regional convention in the UK. Plastic macs, hearing aids wheelchairs. The generation that thought 1975 would transport them to paradise.
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  Serious question about the Australian RC and the WTBTS.

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i have not been in a position to watch all of the interviews, so i'm sure that i missed a few things.

  here is my question.

  were either elders or ministerial servants accused of sexually abusing children, or were the accused just lowly r&f publishers or bible studies?

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  freddo

  Keep us posted umbertoecho - this is really good stuff. Thank you!

  Do you know whether there might be another "public" hearing day with JW's? They did an extra one for dear Geoffrey I wonder if they might schedule some more?
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  The Kingdom Halls are empty

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my jw spies tell me that the kingdom halls are empty compared to how they used to be, since i left 5 years ago.

  not saying they're empty because of me though.. is that what you are hearing?.

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  freddo

  Above the CO's? Straight to the Service Desk. More "mature" CO's go round on training visits with newer CO's. "Mature" CO's occasionally get a bethel heavy accompany them.

  Busy busy busy busy.
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  Bible teach book does not mentioned shunning

  by poopie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  or disfelowshipping si the bible does not teach it.

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  freddo

  No. Ironically it's in the "God's Love" book.