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  Annual Meeting Speculation Open Thread

  by cappytan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  - tony morris will rant about apostates anonymously sending him pink socks.. - david splane will say that though types and anti-types are no longer jw doctrine, that doesn't mean that the gb can't bring them back anytime they want.

  obey, or else we'll bring them back!.

  - sam herd gives a talk about "wimmen, whisky and makin' whoopie".

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  You know what Island Man? I could see them doing that!
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  Annual Meeting Speculation Open Thread

  by cappytan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  - tony morris will rant about apostates anonymously sending him pink socks.. - david splane will say that though types and anti-types are no longer jw doctrine, that doesn't mean that the gb can't bring them back anytime they want.

  obey, or else we'll bring them back!.

  - sam herd gives a talk about "wimmen, whisky and makin' whoopie".

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  freddo

  Big video of lots of smiling black faces stood in front of their new scaffold pole sided kingdom hall with tin roof and of course with the blueborg logo stuck out at right-angles on it. Song "Let it rain let it snow this is where your lolly goes ..." played over it then "Oh sunny day why not pay let it make Jehovah's day!" to round it off with six whirling trolley carts spinning madly.

  Videos of big earth movers building War-wick ready for the new system. Snippet of the London project mentioned too.

  A ten minute video of how even when your branch office closes you can show loyalty by bringing the good news to your dying relatives - starring Geoff Jackson and his Pa.

  Tony Morris reminding us of how good his sons and "oh so meek" daughters-in-law make him look.

  A trip down memory lane "looking at our archives" where about three comments of Rutherford's ramblings taken out of context out of about three hundred thousand wrong 'uns can be shown to have been correct before their time with a cut to "Millions Now Living Will ... err ... May Never Die" book.
  
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  New here!

  by Mandy97 in

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  2. friends

  hi guys !

  hm.. i'm new in this website !

  my name is mandy and i just want to meet new people!

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  freddo

  Welcome Mandy 97.

  When you say you're not "christened" I hope you mean you're not baptised? (Notice how here in real England as opposed to the rebel colony of the United States we spell properly, hence baptised, not baptized.)
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  Anthony Morris III: Jehovah Blesses Obedience

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://tv.jw.org/#video/vodprogramsevents/pub-jwbmw_201509_1_video.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf9j7qs7bvm.

  obey.

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  My question is why did they broadcast this? Because they are getting dissent and they don't like it? Good.

  Notice how Tony Morris catches and involuntarily changes tone and facial expression on words he doesn't like to hear even when reading from scripture - "complaining" from the Greeks about their widows. It's bothersome to him even after admitting the apostles distributed food Jesus miraculously provided.

  Last month we had a bit on child abuse and he gave us "professed victim".

  "Professed" is a borg judgemental word usually used with "professed" Christians to show the borg don't like'em and have judged them non-christian.

  If Tony Morris was about in ancient times he would be banging the rock and grudgingly giving out water and not getting into the promised land.
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  The new RBC

  by drawcad_1 in

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  the new rbc now called the ldc.

  sold to us as new and improved rbc.

  working with all of the congregation funds after we sent them all back to new york and what have they done.

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  Here in the UK in Wales and the South of England where I have contacts it's similar. Disbanded congregations and closing KH's. Inventories being taken and elders asked to value certain halls. Congregations not told what is going on and more and more people feeling "out in the cold".

  I just hope it wakes more up to "the lack of love" and lessens the grip on the rest.

  LDC = Let's Donate Cash! Very funny and very true!

  
  
  
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  What will 1914 (DROPPED) mean for you (EX-JW)

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  let's pretend this might happen.

  im not asking what it will mean for the jdubs or for the organization, but what will it mean for you---- if one day you wake up and the watchtower drops the 1914 doctrine.. (you know at some point they have to, but probably not our lifetime).

  if you are disfellowshipped or disassociated and have been shunned by your parents, by your children, by you spouse or ex-husband/wife, for years or even less, will you call your relatives and ask/tell them;.

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  Me personally? I stopped believing in 1914 sometime between 1994 and about 2004. Went through the 3 stages of Hmm? Huh? and WTF? But not at an exact time I could pinpoint. So nothing really.

  As for waking up anyone else - if dancing trolley carts, the ARC and particularly "the generation" hasn't done it then no single thing will. But 1914 might be a big enough straw to break quite a few camels backs.

  They won't do it though because they would find it hard to have any semblance of belief in themselves any longer if they did.
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  Special talk yesterday?

  by TweetieBird in

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  i got a call from my mother-in-law the other day begging me to go to the hall this past sunday for a special talk.

  i didn't go but was wondering what the deal is?

  details please..

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  Oh yah! WT Study - Your Deliverance is Getting near! (again!)
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  I'm not so sure a bigger awakening is going to happen anymore

  by bradford in

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  2. friends

  when i left in march officially i started reading the forums here.

  i had this excitement that more people would be leaving soon because of the crazy broadcasts, the crazy "new light" that the gb was dishing out, and more recently the australian royal commission lighting up geoffrey.

  this past saturday i had an elder stop by to chat for the first time since i left.

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  Round "our way" - south U.K. - over the last ten years I have noted:

  1) Dropping average meeting attendance from about 90% of publisher number to 75% of publisher number (despite being two meetings instead of three). More vacations.

  2) Very few coming in from outside. Those that are are low hanging fruit. Not mentally or emotionally "right."

  3) More ex-elders. One congregation nearby has six serving elders with five ex elders sat in the audience. Another has eight elders with four exes. 2 elders resigned or removed in one cong. in 2014.

  4) In one hall in the last two years 1 older single/divorced brother in his 70's has conspicuously and deliberately "gone inactive" - I don't know why. I older sister in her 60's has definitely disassociated (announce as no longer a jw but the rumour mill says she felt not enough emphasis on jesus and "being made to feel guilty for not doing enough" every CO visit). Another one in her 40's posted her pictures of herself in an Xmas party hat on facebook and she was called up by elders and she disassociated or was DF'd - not sure which)
  

  None of these were ever zealous types but nevertheless three in two years and not for the traditional "immorality".

  Slow steady decline. And this during the 2013/2014 let's all get new bibles and celebrate 100 years razzmatazz.
  

  This was before the ARC and the overlapping generation! Let's hope it gets worse.
  
  
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  After Death Communications in the JW community

  by jack2312 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my name is jack and i'm looking for after death communications from the jehovah witness community.

  an after death communication (or adc) is when a loved one sends a kind of message to this side of life after their death.

  it can be a dream or smell (like perfume or roses that would be attached to them in memory) or a feeling of their presence.

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  Hello Jack.

  I'm sorry to hear your daughter died at age 35. It must be so distressing to lose a child I don't know how folk cope but I guess they have to.
  

  I hope you find solace.
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  Trolley Cart effectiveness

  by freddo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  does anyone here who goes to meetings know of anyone who comes to their meetings after being contacted on the trolleys?

  anyone hear of a real bible study from these carts?.

  exaggerations from the assembly platform or jw urban myths do not count!.

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  @Mad Irishman

  Did the studies "progress"?