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  A simple explanation for the financial changes

  by JeffT in

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  as i've mentioned from time to time, i'm a retired accountant.

  i have tried many times to come up with some logical, sound business reason why the wtbs has made the big changes in its financial arrangements: taking the congregations savings, the monthly donations per congregation etc.

  i finally came up with the answer.. the leadership of the watchtower society is batshit crazy.

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  freddo

  They do get it spectacularly wrong at times. I mean hiring Monica Applewhite to tell the RAC about how good jw's are at handling child abuse cases really backfired.

  If your advisors - whether financial, legal, property or child abuse - are only interested in keeping their lucrative contracts with you and milking you or if they are jw's keeping their board and lodging and positions of power they will tell you how wonderful you are and agree with you (to your face) when you say you are god's spokesmen, and then you will never get the really needed advice.

  Remember when the yearbooks would tell us how the (worldly) M.A.N. press salesmen and installers would tell them "you really are god's people" or it's "obvious god is directing you!" Sucking at the teat of the cash cow the lot of them.
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  Latest rumor - all WT construction "suspended", except for Warwick

  by sir82 in

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  heard 4th-hand, but from a full-on believer, so not likely to be an "apostate lie":.

  apparently, at bethel's morning worship this morning, it was announced that all worldwide wts construction is "suspended" for an indefinite time, except for the new world headquarters at warwick.. also, the "relocation" of remote translating teams is also suspended.. finally, there will be a "worldwide" reduction in bethel personnel.. all this came to me in a non-english language, and,as noted, 4th-hand.

  so it is possible something may have been lost in translation and/or in the multiple steps between bethel morning worship & me.. but if true, it would be quite stunning.

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  freddo

  Are they in major financial trouble right now?

  Or do they just see it a'comin' down the pike?

  To this small mind I think they are only "in trouble" now because they won't borrow money to build War-wick and the London branch against the vast wealth they have tied up in New York property (and to a lesser extent London) but want donations.

  But a'comin down the pike they've got to be sweating like they're in a sauna eating vindaloo simply because of the pedo lawsuits.
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  Latest Leaked BOE letter to Elders Oct. 4th

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  october 4, 2015. to all congregations.

  re: new provisions announced atannual meeting.

  dear brothers:.

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  freddo

  Title says to BoE but letter actually addressed To All Congregations.

  @_Morpheus

  Defiantly or Definitely?

  Actually either will do.
  

  Who reckons there will be a shit-storm at the GB meeting this Wednesday as they make changes to teach them damn 'postates a lesson? Go on Tomo you know you want to!
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  JWsurvey Scoop of Annual Meeting...No more TMS?? Further Magazine Reduction

  by LostGeneration in

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  wow a lot here, hell of a scoop by cedars if true.... http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/theocratic-ministry-school-gone-as-2015-annual-meeting-announcements-leaked-in-advance.

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  freddo

  It's only nine days until the annual meeting ... so possible. GB and "Helpers" will go ape-shit (UK expression for "going mental" ) trying to find the source of that. Mind you there is a small chance they are putting it out just to catch "the spy".

  If it is genuine and they don't change it then it is great that someone high up enough to know about it has leaked it.

  Shame the meeting is still 1hr 45; you'd think with all the dumbing down they might drop to 1hr 30. Same crap different name.
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  Annual Meeting Speculation Open Thread

  by cappytan in

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  - tony morris will rant about apostates anonymously sending him pink socks.. - david splane will say that though types and anti-types are no longer jw doctrine, that doesn't mean that the gb can't bring them back anytime they want.

  obey, or else we'll bring them back!.

  - sam herd gives a talk about "wimmen, whisky and makin' whoopie".

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  freddo

  You know what Island Man? I could see them doing that!
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  Annual Meeting Speculation Open Thread

  by cappytan in

  1. watchtower
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  - tony morris will rant about apostates anonymously sending him pink socks.. - david splane will say that though types and anti-types are no longer jw doctrine, that doesn't mean that the gb can't bring them back anytime they want.

  obey, or else we'll bring them back!.

  - sam herd gives a talk about "wimmen, whisky and makin' whoopie".

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  freddo

  Big video of lots of smiling black faces stood in front of their new scaffold pole sided kingdom hall with tin roof and of course with the blueborg logo stuck out at right-angles on it. Song "Let it rain let it snow this is where your lolly goes ..." played over it then "Oh sunny day why not pay let it make Jehovah's day!" to round it off with six whirling trolley carts spinning madly.

  Videos of big earth movers building War-wick ready for the new system. Snippet of the London project mentioned too.

  A ten minute video of how even when your branch office closes you can show loyalty by bringing the good news to your dying relatives - starring Geoff Jackson and his Pa.

  Tony Morris reminding us of how good his sons and "oh so meek" daughters-in-law make him look.

  A trip down memory lane "looking at our archives" where about three comments of Rutherford's ramblings taken out of context out of about three hundred thousand wrong 'uns can be shown to have been correct before their time with a cut to "Millions Now Living Will ... err ... May Never Die" book.
  
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  New here!

  by Mandy97 in

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  hi guys !

  hm.. i'm new in this website !

  my name is mandy and i just want to meet new people!

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  freddo

  Welcome Mandy 97.

  When you say you're not "christened" I hope you mean you're not baptised? (Notice how here in real England as opposed to the rebel colony of the United States we spell properly, hence baptised, not baptized.)
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  Anthony Morris III: Jehovah Blesses Obedience

  by wifibandit in

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  http://tv.jw.org/#video/vodprogramsevents/pub-jwbmw_201509_1_video.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf9j7qs7bvm.

  obey.

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  freddo

  My question is why did they broadcast this? Because they are getting dissent and they don't like it? Good.

  Notice how Tony Morris catches and involuntarily changes tone and facial expression on words he doesn't like to hear even when reading from scripture - "complaining" from the Greeks about their widows. It's bothersome to him even after admitting the apostles distributed food Jesus miraculously provided.

  Last month we had a bit on child abuse and he gave us "professed victim".

  "Professed" is a borg judgemental word usually used with "professed" Christians to show the borg don't like'em and have judged them non-christian.

  If Tony Morris was about in ancient times he would be banging the rock and grudgingly giving out water and not getting into the promised land.
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  The new RBC

  by drawcad_1 in

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  the new rbc now called the ldc.

  sold to us as new and improved rbc.

  working with all of the congregation funds after we sent them all back to new york and what have they done.

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  freddo

  Here in the UK in Wales and the South of England where I have contacts it's similar. Disbanded congregations and closing KH's. Inventories being taken and elders asked to value certain halls. Congregations not told what is going on and more and more people feeling "out in the cold".

  I just hope it wakes more up to "the lack of love" and lessens the grip on the rest.

  LDC = Let's Donate Cash! Very funny and very true!

  
  
  
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  What will 1914 (DROPPED) mean for you (EX-JW)

  by John Aquila in

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  let's pretend this might happen.

  im not asking what it will mean for the jdubs or for the organization, but what will it mean for you---- if one day you wake up and the watchtower drops the 1914 doctrine.. (you know at some point they have to, but probably not our lifetime).

  if you are disfellowshipped or disassociated and have been shunned by your parents, by your children, by you spouse or ex-husband/wife, for years or even less, will you call your relatives and ask/tell them;.

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  freddo

  Me personally? I stopped believing in 1914 sometime between 1994 and about 2004. Went through the 3 stages of Hmm? Huh? and WTF? But not at an exact time I could pinpoint. So nothing really.

  As for waking up anyone else - if dancing trolley carts, the ARC and particularly "the generation" hasn't done it then no single thing will. But 1914 might be a big enough straw to break quite a few camels backs.

  They won't do it though because they would find it hard to have any semblance of belief in themselves any longer if they did.