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  Everybody loves Raymond

  by Saintbertholdt in

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  2. scandals

  a while ago the user vinman started a forum thread called: "ray franz was an idiot".

  the reaction to it was quite negative but i have to admit that the title of that thread was intriguing to me.

  by nature i am an iconoclast.

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  freddo

  I just recently bought a copy of CoC. I have dipped in to it at several points and have found that what Ray Franz says happened has the absolute ring of truth to it. The lack of bitterness and ranting by Ray makes his words all the more powerful.

  It has cemented my desire to remain mentally distanced from the "self-preserving at all costs" and the "self-aggrandising" of the governing body. Any good motive they have ever had has become submerged into these two cravings.

  Thank you Ray. And thank you to those who tell about him on the internet!
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  "And Your Little Dog Too...." WTS not content with taking kids' ice cream money, now they want them to give up their puppy dogs too.

  by sir82 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  don't know if anyone else caught this subtle but malicious photo from the 12/13/15 wt study article.. not sure how to post pictures here, but the photo is on the website's copy of the article, just below paragraph 12:.

  http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20151015/give-us-more-faith/.

  note the 3 pictures in sequence tell a "story":.

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  freddo

  FAMILY STUDY

  Dad: (Who has either fallen out with his body of elders and wants to get the XXX away or may just have a screw loose, who knows): "OK loved ones, let's go where the need is great!"

  Wife: "Yes dear, let's get away from Brother and Sister negative who read all the old publications and keeps telling me about "failed prophecies"!"

  Daughter: "I'm home schooled anyway so yay! One long holiday!"

  Son: "But we can't take my dog with us!"

  Dad: "Don't worry son, we're going to South Korea. They really love dogs in South Korea."
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  Missed the Meeting

  by konceptual99 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so yesterday was a lovely day where i live and so instead of going to the meeting we went, as a family, out for the late pm/early evening to have a bbq.

  we were far more relaxed than if we had gone to the meeting.

  we spent far more time talking that if we had gone to the meeting.

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  freddo

  @Konceptual and @confused

  It is so much easier when you resign from being an elder. But you have to resist the urge to help your ex elders especially if there are few elders. You can feel guilty.

  Step one is to get your wife to accept you are the way you are without running to the elders. Hammer home points you think will make her give you a free pass at home. E.g. Child abuse/generation/parents getting old, sick and dying even though they truly believed they would be in paradise by now.

  Do they really want the same for their kids? Kids are paramount to most women.
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  Bethels all downsizing within a year?

  by Formerbrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  why is there a huge cull going on of all bethels around the world?.

  about 80% cull within the next year?.

  some have been in bethel for decades and will be sent packing, the 20% of bethelites who stay will have to do their own food, laundry and clean their flat.

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  freddo

  @Vidiot "... hard-core loyalists."

  ... of the right age. (i.e. early thirties for CO's - even less for new Bethelites)
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  Is the JW Broadcasting having good results for the Org?

  by thewalker in

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  2. friends

  when speaking with brothers, i can see they really like the jw.org site more than magazines and books.

  i can imagine them publishing more and more articles and news as it's more dynamic and creates a sense of alert with brothers looking for new articles to read instead of the boring monthly magazines.. but when it comes to the jw broadcasting, it's something different.

  even elders admit they aren't watching the monthly broadcastings.

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  freddo

  Certainly having good results my way. You may recall the uber-pioneer sister sneering at the dancing trolley cart; but get this -

  In 2014 the school overseer in our hall "stepped aside/got removed" from being elder. He's quietly continued since as a "brother in good standing" being used to read/pray.

  I asked him if he has ever thought about serving as an appointed man again and we got onto the jw broadcast about the overlapping generation explanation and he said:

  "Freddo, when you can show me an overlapping generation in the bible without using a made-up flipchart I'll think about serving as an elder again. Until then I'll stay as I am."

  I grinned and said "I don't suppose Jesus had one of those on the mount of Olives!".

  He smiled ...
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  Kenneth Flodin: ‘This Generation Will ... Not Pass Away’ (Matt. 24:34)

  by wifibandit in

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  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmbpbb5k_mc

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  freddo

  What a bunch of crap.

  No mention of the long time explanation of the generation that held sway until the Awake masthead change in 1995 - the generation that saw 1914. Just like questions from readers in the past - a question no one asks or cares about or is relevant. Trying to deflect us onto when WTF ... sorry FWF ... was baptised.

  Not the real questions that probably kept the US mail in business for a few weeks like "Is this really the best you can come up with? I mean really?"

  One elderly sister said to me about a month back "Freddo, did you understand the broadcast about the generation?" I white-lied and portrayed apathy and said "I find the broadcasts discouraging Sister, they all seem to be about money lately."

  She said "I know! But you must watch this generation explanation Freddo - it's just one big cop out!"
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  I just found out that my youngest brother committed suicide

  by SnakesInTheTower in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my middle brother called me a couple of hours ago.

  our youngest brother, josh, who was 38, was found by his friends in his apartment.

  he hung himself.

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  freddo

  Awful news. So sorry to hear this.
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  One reason behind the slow steady decline of JWs

  by AllTimeJeff in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hello first of all to those that remember me.

  i'm doing well, 10 years since my missionary trip to cameroon.

  i've met a couple of goals.

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  freddo

  I want to believe your analysis Dunedain. I really hope you are right. Dare I hope you are right?
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  JWTalk Forum

  by Newly Enlightened in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  does anyone know if jwtalk is a real jehovah witness forum?.

  are the owner bob & an admin jerry in good standing in their congregations?

  or just apostates posing as jw's?.

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  freddo

  I know it's cringeworthy but if he has a huge following then this will feed the apathy and make it all the more mainstream. It's got to erode the GB's control even if only at the edges.

  How big is his forum? Oooh ... err ... perhaps size does matter!
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  Just saw this video, just goes to show you how the elders lie...JW Elder's Response To My DA Letter

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  saw this video of a brave woman who gave a da letter and an elder tries to talk with her.

  this guy comes across has full of shite, and you know he would be a different person if there were other elders around with him.

  kangaroo court jokers is what comes to my mind.

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  freddo

  The question to pin him with was "Why didn't the elders go to the authorities if they believed me?" and quoted 1 Peter 2 v 13 - 17.