luke 22:54.
"then they arrested him and led him off, and they brought him into the house of the high priest; but peter was following at a distance.
" i am still raging because this verse was used at a recent circuit overseer's visit.
Of course Peter "following at a distance" (when Jesus was being led captive to mock trial and then execution) was actually doing the very best he could and if we want to judge, better than all the other apostles who at that point weren't following him at all. Considering the situation understandably so as they were hiding so they wouldn't get crucified.
The present GB have trouble presenting themselves to court to "be hailed before governors" regarding child abuse!
now what is your stance?
If this were true then "All's fair in love and war" ... so now let's unleash the pdf's of war.
2015-12-16-boe.
instructions for recommending new congregations click the green download button.
http://wwwb.fileflyer.com/view/v8exeat petra!
It's really only for CO's but the elders are copied in to make the 99.999% of elders who aren't having to form (or likely to need) new congs think that someplace, somewhere there are new ones being formed.
congregations get an annual letter that tells what can be ordered for literature (it's mainly a list of audio cds/dvds for the deaf), but this time it included publications that will be discontinued, and this included the isaiah's prophecy book and the reasoning book, and i think i saw the draw close to jehovah book.
i meant to take a picture of the letter but forgot.
the branch is only going to give what they have on stock, when that stock depletes that's it, you won't be able to order those publications anymore.. this is in canada so i don't know if this is worldwide..
The Revelation Climax book. So called because it came again and again.
Remember when we studied it for the third time with the literal cut and paste stuff that was to be stuck in when it got revised?
The only book printed by the WT with stuck together pages and it has Climax! in the title.
You couldn't make it up.
with the christmas almost upon us i would like to share a personal experience with you about drinking and driving.. as you may know the local police are having a serious go at drink drivers this year... well, a couple of days ago i was out for an evening with friends and had a small number of drinks before dinner, followed by some rather nice red wine.
feeling jolly i still had the sense to know that i may be very slightly over the limit.. that's when i did something that i've never done before - i took a taxi home.. sure enough on the way home there was a police road check, but since it was a taxi they waved it past.
i arrived home safely without incident.. this was a real surprise as i had never driven a taxi before, i don't know where i got it and now that it's in my garage i don't know what to do with it.. any ideas?.
I was in the same predicament as you Simon but I decided to take a bus home in the small hours of the morning. So I broke into the local bus depot and there were dozens of buses I could choose from. I checked them all over but had to walk home in the end because I couldn't find one going to my area of town.
I expect if I broke in again I'd find three in a row all going to my street. Just my luck! I blame Satan. Or Old Blakey.
mom: yes?.
you dont want to make jehovah sad, do you mom?.
mom: okay.. .
Mom: Well why not dig smaller graves, Caleb? All these full-size ones are taking over my flower beds and borders.
Caleb: Now, Mom! We've got to be hole-souled - see what I did with the words whole and hole Mom? See, We are Jehovah's happy people! See, the "W" is silent?
Dad: (He is a career Min Serv. - you can tell by his knuckles dragging the floor) Good one Caleb! (Does a high five)
Caleb: Actually Dad we could dig some smaller ones, after all we need to bury the babies and toddlers too don't we?
well, ok, but targeting a german christmas market seems a little hypocritical...
@Thomas Covenant
I googled "Bristol German Christmas Market"
Looks like it is indeed Bristol, England.
child sexual abuse and jehovahs witnesses rules part 1 of gumshoes royal commission series.
this is a fairly lengthy article describing and examining the royal commission in australia.. the author ends the article with this:.
in general, we see, from watchtower australia, how depriving a person of fellowship was seen as a severe punishment.
What Mephis said.
I don't believe JW's as an organisation want to harm children though I accept that it it quite possible at least one of the GB since the 1970's might have been a pedo.
It's always been about protecting "the name" and now losing the money is just as important.
i am new to the boards, so a little background info may be a good idea?
also, i'm not quite sure which sub-forum to post this to....
i have a typical religious background for my country; grew up with lutheran christianity (which was our state religion up until 2012; we now have a secular constitution).
Hi Northern Star and welcome!
I have little to add except, in my 50 years experience as a JW - kid, teenager, adult, MS, elder, ex elder, now just nominally in for family - here in the UK I have never come across any JW that would not go to the police for a witnessed murder.
Mind you it has never actually been put to the test around my experience.
I know I have heard of those that have covered up drink-driving offences, drug abuse and theft at the low to middling range of offences and those that have probably perjured themselves.
Certainly child protection issues are generally viewed as a congregational problem and not a police matter. Witnesses would typically ask an elder or close friend's view before going to the authorities.
When I was an elder I just went to the police about two child protection matters but told them (the Police) that I was "breaking ranks" and hoped they could proceed without divulging my involvement. I further assured the police that if it was absolutely necessary to come forward publically then I would do so.
The couple calling on you are:
Happy to count time and a bible study on their reports.
Even crazier than most JW's if they would not report murder.
Why not show them their own older publications about false prophecies?
May 22nd Awake 1969 about young people "facing the fact" that they will not fulfill a career in this old system" which will be gone in a few years.
1984 Watchtower about the generation that will not pass away.
That sort of thing.
a while back at our co visit, he commended the cong.
because our average hours had gone up.. we went from around 7.3 to about 7.5. i recall the days when anything less than 10 was considered awful.. of course now, they don't even print the hours in the km or anywhere.. i was wondering how these numbers compared to other congregations?.
It's slowly dropped over the past twenty years from 8.8/9.0 to 7.5/7.7.
Sister Bumwipe and Brother Depends (you know, they survived til 1975 and were the generation that saw 1914 ...) at 0.25 of an hour don't help the averages mind.
But then we had a pioneer removed but who carried on doing the hours of a pioneer so that added almost an hour to the joe publisher averages for twelve months a couple of years back! When he got his badge back the average dropped again. Ha Ha!
