Hi "closed" and welcome. Please share more.
A very true perspective. The only real non - born in, outside growth is in the "foreign langauge" field in many "western" countries.
Hi "closed" and welcome. Please share more.
A very true perspective. The only real non - born in, outside growth is in the "foreign langauge" field in many "western" countries.
this was how it was described to me yesterday by a brother who has been there for some 40 years.
"everyone is about gone; the governing body is set to leave within 2 months; the kitchen and laundry personnel are gone and i have to fend for myself now.".
"also the aggravation of 4 to 5 business men in suits with clipboards daily checking out the watchtower properties.
Ha!
11 months ago and it's the "HAPPY" video.
What a difference in less than a year.
i have been lurking here for about 6 months, and being the last day of the year, and ready to start the new one afresh, i want to share the story of our exit from the org.
i have found the personal experiences of others of immeasurable value, (and its been a while since a good exit story has been posted) that i hope this can be of benefit to at least someone.. .
my mother became a jehovahs witness when i was about 9 or 10. i remember initially hating all of the new sanctions put on our lives (no birthdays and christmas anymore) but for some reason i soon after joined her in attending the meetings and eventually got baptized at the age of 14. my staunch catholic father converted a couple of years later.
Mrs. Obfuscate. Thank you.
Please stay and post more. It is very encouraging.
It is invaluable to have someone around here who wasn't personally affected by child abuse to feel so strongly about the ARC.
news just released in the uk on the bbc news website.
so, it's that time of year again.
here's a few of my predictions.
) no armageddon.
Worldwide
1) As mentioned - no more WT Library on CD/DVD.
2) Peak to Peak publishers will drop - if reported honestly.
3) Child Abuse matters will take a bigger toll.
4) Trolley Carts will prove just as fruitless.
5) JWTV will make more people wake up.
6) Re-assigned Bethelites will be more wary about taking on privileges.
7) More Hall sales and money grabbing.
8) Aux Pioneering at 30 hours - open all year round starting in March
U.K.
All the above will apply especially no 2 "peak to peak" drop which happened this year and no 3 with the charity commission investigation into jw handling of child abuse.
The only ones coming in other than "born-ins" will be nutters, fruitcakes and weirdos.
Baptisms will be low but may rebound a bit from the low "post 2014" year just reported.
My circuit
A kingdom Hall with just one congregation may be sold off. I don't think we will lose a congregation this year but it will be moved in with another hall.
I hear that at least three reassigned bethelite couples will be assigned to congregations in our circuit as regular (i.e. no money, you're on your own) pioneers.
More elders/MS resigning/removed.
My Congregation
I think an older elder and/or MS will die or be incapacitated - no one in particular, just that we've got two over 80 and three over 75.
Can't see any "appointments" this year (maybe a young buck towards the end of the year but he could go either way) unless someone moves in. One "nice but dim" MS looks like he might even be asked to fall on his sword.
Can't see any baptisms either.
Even lower meeting attendance averages - reporting about 65 out of 90 at present.
More apathy, judicials, boredom and slacking off.
[note: copy/pasted this with permission from reddit.].
once each year, the governing body writes a direct letter to the congregation members included in the yearbook.
in his annual message to the catholic faithful (urbi et orbi) delivered on christmas day, the pope spoke about world peace, terrorism, and the refugee crisis.
not all are jw's here, think about the time you could get.
i know you are checking.
don't be shy, no one will ever know.
You're a lost cause rebelfighter!
any body know?
I have in front of me the old "green bible" - this one revised in "1970 C.E." - on page 1461 there is the "table of the books of the bible". The columns show name of book/writer/place written/writing completed/time covered.
In the "Time Covered (B.C.E.)" column for Genesis it says:-
After 1:2: (meaning Ch1 v 2)
46,026 - 1657
I also have in front of me a deluxe 1984 revision.
In the 1984 revision we have:
"In the beginning" to 1657
As the creative days become more embarrassing the awkward dates are dropped.
I surmise that 46,026 is 6 creative days at 7000 = 42,000 plus the 4026 BCE date given for Adam's creation at the end of the sixth day. Add the final creative day (of god's rest) of 7000 years and we get to Blondie's 49,000 years, bringing us to the end of the 1000 year reign in 2975 C.E. (1975 CE being the start of it.)
Oh how all this bollocks made sense to me as a teenager who liked to read. Can you imagine today's jw youngsters wading through this lot?
jehovah's witness strangled girls and was getting away with it for over 20 years.
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@Bluesbrother
I feel your pain. Been there, worn the T-shirt. Still appalled.
just wondering about witness weddings and what is and isn't acceptable these days.
i know that toasts are a no-no, but i'm wondering about other things, such as:.
is it ok to have a best man?.