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  The book of Ruth... destroys the bible

  by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  lets pretend two things:.

  1. god (yhwh) exists.

  2. the bible is his word.. now we follow genesis to judges ok... judges resets at chaper 17-21 but for the purposes od this posts lets ignore that.... ruth we are told lives in the time of the judges... ok no problem/ until the end.

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  freddo

  Look folks Ruth to David is easy! Overlapping generations of course.
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  Counsel from Bro Losch (GB Member) to the Elders about the NFL

  by James Jack in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  while attending a week long training class for elders in patterson, bro losch gave the concluding talk about loyalty to the borg, which i was in awe of(i went more in detail in a recent post about a s.a.d.

  where losch was the speaker).

  at the end of his talk, here's what he said: .

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  freddo

  How long ago was this event?
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  Who really is assigned the Congregation Charity Tax return in the congregation?

  by Quarterback in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i have this poor friend that has so much to do.as an account servant.

  i recently noticed that he got additional work loaded on his back by the secretary who told him that it was his responsibility to fill this register charity form return.. i remember from long ago that this was a job that the secretary had to do, but can't find it in writing.

  does anyone have anything in writting on it?.

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  freddo

  OK here's how it goes.

  Each of the Service Committee has responsibility for things in "their" department.

  Service Overseer oversees territory, mags and literature depts and usually has MS's and assistants helping out. Oversees "Trolley/Cart" ministry although the actual schedule will be done by a MS or another brother. Any of them might fill out forms but it is the responsibility of the S.O.

  CoBE oversees Hall Servant and Sound Dept - now audio-visual (besides organising elders meetings, CO visit and most of the meeting schedules.

  Secretary oversees Accounts (often done by another elder or a MS and he or the Sec can sort out charity tax reclaim forms), oversees (through group overseers) reports and sends "hours" to the branch. He looks after all the judicial records and child protection files and the policy (letters) file. Much of this is on line now anyway. Keeps minutes of elders meetings.
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  Bethel layoffs of oldies

  by I am a Bible Student in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is this true?

  has anyone heard of it?

  saw it on my facebook.. "jan. 6 bethel update 108 elderly bethelites getting the boot.. brooklyn, ny.

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  freddo

  @James Jack

  Good point.
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  Who really is assigned the Congregation Charity Tax return in the congregation?

  by Quarterback in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i have this poor friend that has so much to do.as an account servant.

  i recently noticed that he got additional work loaded on his back by the secretary who told him that it was his responsibility to fill this register charity form return.. i remember from long ago that this was a job that the secretary had to do, but can't find it in writing.

  does anyone have anything in writting on it?.

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  freddo

  When I was Accounts Servant as an MS I did it. When I was Secretary I did it myself. But we had a "good" time when we had ten elders and one of them was Accounts Servant and he did it for me for a while.

  It depends on workload and number of appointed (and semi-competent) men.

  At the moment in our hall the Secretary works secularly and the Accounts Servant is a retired MS. The accounts servant does.

  Final responsibility for all things financial is the Secretary. (Well whole BoE as trustees actually)
  
  
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  Bethel layoffs of oldies

  by I am a Bible Student in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is this true?

  has anyone heard of it?

  saw it on my facebook.. "jan. 6 bethel update 108 elderly bethelites getting the boot.. brooklyn, ny.

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  freddo

  In UK they are definitely laying off those in their late 30's through late 50's and some of whom have given 10, 20, 30 years of Bethel service. Absolute definite FACT.

  I have been told at least four of them are moving to two struggling congregations in our circuit (these are Elder plus wife couples) in February.

  Really old ones - 70 plus I have not heard of. I don't think I know of any in their 60's either.
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  Infighting at the top?

  by JeffT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we've all been trying to decipher what is going on at the top of the watchtower organization.

  clearly, the game's afoot, we just don't know what game we're playing.

  item: the constant harping about money and donations.

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  Fisherman is right. There is more. Mainly the "spiritual" legal team and the "spiritual" accountancy and investment team who exert a lot of influence upon the Governing Body.

  I don't know but I believe what we are seeing is a panic reaction to several converging forces coming against the Governing Body's intended course. (GBTV - PropertyGB and ObeyusGB)

  The "A"'s that are causing this problem for the GB:-

  Abuse; advancing Apathy; awaiting Armageddon; = accounts anguish against angry Assholes.
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  Have you got a cow that you could sell ?

  by pepperheart in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  have you got a cow that you could sell for the gb they really really need the money

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  In Pharoah's dream didn't seven skinny cows eat up seven fat cows?

  Anyone got any skinny cows? Seven skinny cows needed for Brooklyn.
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  The new service meeting

  by John Aquila in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i wanted to relate an experience that happened this morning.

  it is regarding the new format for the meeting on thursdays in my area.

  its not word for word but im summarizing what i heard, the best i can remember.

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  freddo

  And then I woke up ...
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  What is your relationship with ALCOHOL?

  by nicolaou in

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  2. physical

  here in the uk new drinking guidelines have been issued which suggest "no more than 14 units a week - equivalent to six pints of beer or seven glasses of wine.".

  another piece of the advice which is getting a lot of attention is that "if people drink, it should be moderately over three or more days and that some days should be alcohol-free.".

  already people are making cries of "nanny state!

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  freddo

  I drink more and eat more when I'm stressed. Since resigning as an elder and being mentally "out" I have drunk and eaten less.

  I've probably only been drunk a couple of times in my life - and once was at home in a drunk myself to sleep kind of way. The other was on holiday when me and a mate shared a bottle of spirits till it was gone one evening. Fell asleep in a chair by a log fire. Both times it was "Southern Comfort" funnily enough!

  But not in the last twenty years or so.