have you ever wondered why there is always a deficit at the circuit assembly?
did you realize that before the program begins, the circuit is already in the red?
many of the friends thought they were paying for the use of the building and covering the costs of the utilities, etc.
And how he describes it in the US is exactly how it is done in my corner of the UK. Except it's £10 per publisher not 10 bucks. And then the CO writes to the congo's to make up the deficit if not enough came in!
And when the assembly hall is paid for - no change in the "per capita" - and then in 2014 or 2015 the assembly hall slush fund err ... maintenance fund of about £800,000 is cleaned out and sent to the branch too.
And don't forget Sophia's ice cream money. We need that!
during our wt life we met a good number of friends involved in the circuit and district work.
i am sure that we share the same experience and that we remember fondly some that we caring, loving and generally interested in the brothers.
at the same time we might remember others that were arrogant, selfish, abusive and oppressive.
The only one I found to be a really "good egg" actually came off the circuit due to health issues in his late 70's a year or two before the "kick 'em out at age 70" and "no more D.O.'s" changes in 2014.
Most of the others were "nondescript predictable watchtower chanting drones"with unpleasant, unhelpful and petty demeanours.
One from a few visits back was an arrogant "look at me" self important bastard and he was taken off at age 70 on the last switch in 2015. Good riddance to him and his stuck up wife and I hope that the congregation he's gone to as "just another elder nobody" has a body of elders that bring him down a peg or two.
Good riddance to him.
Did I show a little too much emotion there?
what do you think is going to happen now that the dust is settling.
does anyone know what is happening next?
I emailed the commission in January and they replied - this quoted paragraph says what is next:
"In case study 29, the Royal Commission will consider the submissions of Senior Counsel Assisting the Royal Commission and of the parties, and will publish its findings and recommendations in the Report of Case Study 29. At this time the Royal Commission is unable to provide a likely timeframe for the release of the Report."
I notice on their website they have reported findings in cases 1 through 20 and the report for case 1 was in March 2014 and the report for case 20 in November 2015.
They are slowly working their way through the cases.
Patience my friends ... the wheels grind slow but they grind very fine!
l thought this would be an interesting exercise to read the different responses.
my question is what makes you think your gods chosen medium?and prove it.
1. When did you realise that jw doctrine was false for the other sheep and you weren't going to be in paradise and so decided to sip the wine so you could lord it over the flock instead?
2. Not a question but a back up thought to 1. I bet you were a trevelling overseer or bethelite with "some power" when the penny dropped, eh?
after the worst introduction i could ever make on the forum i would like to reintroduce myself and make a fresh start on the forum and hopefully over time i will be able to redeem myself.
i have changed my user name which was over dramatic and ridiculous in the cold light of day but for transparency and to show i am not trying to hide anything i have adapted the original name and it now has a more positive feel.
after reading a lot of posts on this forum i am feeling more optimistic about my future.
jerry jones on youtube exposed a jw couple who were begging for money on gofundme.
this is his youtube .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feohxtbml2c.
i'm trying to get a jump ahead for my colleague.
i am making progress though and she is now willing to listen to logic.
logic and reasoning is like kryptonite to jw's.
Welcome to the
"Dunk'em Young Circuit Assembly!"
1. Song & Prayer
2. Experiences - interviews of those who were baptised as soon as they were out of nappies and who remain confident in their old age that Jehovah's promises of paradise are true. (Wheelchair users may remain seated during their interviews)
3. Announcement
The Circuit Assembly deficit is £_________________
4. Financial Needs of the Local Circuit
Give Us Yer Lolly. (And Ice Cream Money)
5. Baptism Talk -
Are you over five years of age? Not baptised? No toy cars for you, then!
The baptism candidate (singular) will wave her teddy bear and say "Yes Mummy" to acknowledge she agrees with the "Two QUESTIONS".
Lunch time and upbuilding association with any anonymous pedophiles in the audience.
6. Symposium. Return To Jehovah!
A) Return To Jehovah With Your WALLET.
B) Having Returned, Will You Praise Jah With Your Valuable Things?
C) If You Have Returned, Have a Penis and Long Trousers - Then Reach Out For Privileges!
D) Return with a clean shaven face.
7. Explaining "The Generation" that Overlaps and It's Grand Climax at Hand!"
8. Announcement "The Deficit is still £________________________" Give More!
9. Beware of Apostate Lies about Child Abuse
Interview a repentant child molester and have him explain why Angus Stewart and Justice McLellan are tools of Satan.
Song (Would Jesus Wear a Rolex?) and Prayer
i am sorry that on my first post i am asking for help and advice but i am at my wits end.
i have been brought up a witness all my life and it is all i know.
i am an ex-elder and pioneer and i don't know anybody outside of the congregation.. i have been unhappy for so long and wanted to leave.
S&L said he'd PM'd three forum members.
Well let's see if any of the three receivers of PM's gives us a heads up.
I haven't received a pm as of yet ...
The horses are running ...
i am sorry that on my first post i am asking for help and advice but i am at my wits end.
i have been brought up a witness all my life and it is all i know.
i am an ex-elder and pioneer and i don't know anybody outside of the congregation.. i have been unhappy for so long and wanted to leave.
My advice.
Calm down and give us some proof as to your bona fides. We will help mightily if you are genuine. But we won't send you cash and you need to earn trust.
I still sometimes call the WT Overseer "the WT conductor" in colloquial terms and the rest of your posts seem to fit terminology.
Here is what doesn't fit: convince me.
You sound so, so, so dependent and panicky from someone at least old enough to be an elder.
So here is what I would like to hear.
1. The area of the UK you are from; describe your country and town or city - it's geographical features - what the climate is like - the things it is known for. That will give me a clue if you really live in the UK. How long have you lived there?
2. Your approx age.
3. Your parents attitude - is one more lenient than the other? Siblings?
4. What the elders and you have actually discussed - detail.
Some guidance for you.
There is plenty of work for hard-working cleaners in the UK. There are even websites offering jobs to refugees as cleaners. You could have a job within a week. Do that immediately. There is no reason why you couldn't earn £10 an hour in London and £7/8 per hour elsewhere.
If the brother who employs you doesn't fire you immediately you have time to look. If he does fire you just because you are DF'd then I would feel no guilt in "taking" clients for my self and cleaning direct. I would tell them that you have been fired for leaving your religion and need work. If you are good some will want you to clean for them.
I do not believe you would be fired on the spot - employment laws and safeguards are in place. You will probably have at least a month's notice. If the brother likes you he might even say work is "necessary business" and you can stay until you find something else.
If you can provide those things we can help. If you run around panicking, we can't.
If you answer my questions convincingly I am happy to P.M. - but only on things that would otherwise reveal your (and my own) identity. As an ex-elder myself with much experience of jw procedures and ways to stall investigations I believe I can help.
Freddo
i read on here that the society teaches that the seven trumpets of revelation are representative of seven conventions held in america in the 1920. is this actually true?
is it old light?
i asked some witnesses but they all gave me a look like i was weird and said it couldn't be right, and i can't check the watchtower library as i can't get it on my computer (apparently the society doesn't think mac users are worthy of the 'good news') i mean... it would be a bit...odd, wouldn't it?
