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  JW Hypocrisy Rears It's Ugly Head...As Usual

  by babygirl30 in

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  so about last night.... i am out at a local club (not restaurant, not event venue - a club) to see a rap concert.

  now, i am with some friends minding my own business, and i find that i am standing right behind 3 active jw's - one of whom used to be my best friend.

  this girl is as fake as they come: 1) she used to live with me and would bring non-jw guys home all the time, 2) was living with a man when she lived down south - until he dumped her, and then she decided to go back to jw's the 1st time and got reproved, and i supported her.

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  freddo

  @babygirl30

  Ah ... but she doesn't know you didn't take pics does she?
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  Anyone eat bunnies on Easter????

  by James Mixon in

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  we eat turkey on thanksgiving why not rabbits on easter???

  what's your traditional meal.

  for easter??

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  freddo

  The only bunnies that get eaten in the UK seem to be chocolate ones as an alternative to a chocolate egg.

  There is a bit of a tradition (not nearly as widespread as the Xmas dinner tradition) to have some sort of "roast" dinner.
  
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  JW Hypocrisy Rears It's Ugly Head...As Usual

  by babygirl30 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so about last night.... i am out at a local club (not restaurant, not event venue - a club) to see a rap concert.

  now, i am with some friends minding my own business, and i find that i am standing right behind 3 active jw's - one of whom used to be my best friend.

  this girl is as fake as they come: 1) she used to live with me and would bring non-jw guys home all the time, 2) was living with a man when she lived down south - until he dumped her, and then she decided to go back to jw's the 1st time and got reproved, and i supported her.

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  And then add ...

  "Would you like me to post the pictures I took of you on my phone while you were at the club dancing to RAP music? Or shall I send them directly to one of your elders?"
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  Confused: What does the overlapping generation really mean?

  by MicaSmith in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  can someone help me understand how the wt came up with the overlapping generation theory?

  i just don't understand it even though i read the information several times.

  it's bewildering.

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  Hi MicaSmith I can tell you WHY the WT came up with the overlapping generation in 2010.

  It is because it suits their purpose. The purpose of keeping followers hanging on and justifying their existence as leaders.

  The previous explanations of the generation were so obviously wrong that they had to change it for fear of even more people querying their explanation.

  The explanation that got everyone who is a witness hooked was the one that told us that the generation that "saw 1914" (originally "with understanding" e.g a minimum age of ten - fifteen years old in 1914; but the "with understanding" got dropped as time ran out) would not pass away.

  Even when this explanation was dropped in 1995, some folk clung to the hope that it was still true by telling themselves that a few million round the globe who "saw" 1914 would by no means pass away.

  Now we live at a time where those born in 1914 are 102 years old it is obvious to virtually everyone that the old explanation cannot be sustained any longer. Hence the latest new, new one! (Several explanations since 1995)

  edited to add: Actually Xanthippe, although the long held explanation was dropped in 1995 the overlapping crap wasn't brought out until 2010. There were two or three other crappy explanations in between!
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  Disturbing/Puzzling Skit at JW Function Last Night Plus Odd Choice of Music

  by Cadellin in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so i attended a fairly large jw gathering last night with my active, elder husband.

  it was a good-by party for a former special pioneer couple who have been demoted to reg pios and have now moved to a larger city to find work.

  anyway, there was music and skits.

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  freddo

  I just hope the 9 year-olds - in 70 or 80 years time - aren't in a nursing home still believing the "very soon, so soon" crap.

  There will be no paradise so I hope they will be free having led a good and fulfilled life with their grandchildren around them.
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  New Light - Two Sticks in Ezekiel - July 2016 Watchtower

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  ezekiel 37:15-17 prophesies about two sticks being joined together to become 1. one stick represented the two tribe kingdom of judah and the other stick represented the 10 tribe of israel (ephraim).

  the article explains how the coming together of these two sticks meant the reuniting of these tribes in 537 bce.the modern day fulfillment was previously taught to mean that the anointed had once again come together in unity in these last days.the july watchtower now explains that one stick, the stick of judah, represents the anointed and the other stick, the stick of ephraim, represents the other sheep.

  they further explain that since 1919 god's people have gradually reunited to become one flock.they are now saying that the other sheep are represented by 10 tribes of israel.

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  I wonder if jw's are on the long and winding road to "all partaking".

  I mean the non-GB members of the "144,000" have now been marginalised to the "whacko and deluded" group. The numbers are rising, so why not have all partake?

  July 2020 WT

  "So does Jesus' command to "keep on doing this in remembrance of me" include everyone "partaking" of the emblems? Previously this journal explained they wouldn't because (insert long irrelevant convoluted crap to justify why it was beneficial to do so) ...

  But what if a Christian Witness, whether his or her hope is earthly or heavenly, conscientiously believed he should take the emblems in line with Jesus' command, sincerely believing it can apply to all? Well then he may prayerfully choose to do so."

  And while we're on a roll you can choose to take any of the previously banned 4 components of blood. Just not whole blood mind! Not that anyone does that nowadays. Good health to you!

  July 2025 WT

  Now you must all sip the wine, at the crackers and can make your own medical decisions regarding blood. We've shut up shop, taken the money and are in our retirement home by the lakeshore. K' bye!
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  Rustle of Spring in Chelmsford?

  by Lostandfound in

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  any sign of spring in chelmsford, or is it still being "rescoped" or simply hugely reduced but no activity anyhow.

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  Nothing will happen until John Kikot and Kenneth Flodin (GB helper/hatchet man) have visited at the end of April to encourage the inmates.

  So will more Bethelites be Kicked out by Kikot because not enough cash has Flowed-in for Flodin?

  Will shall soon see. My money is on less Chelmsford rather than more ...
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  Can a DFed person donate?

  by Lostandfound in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  rereading a post re the shunning wt in feb made me think, do the wt accept money from the dead?

  not inheritances but from the "living dead" as they perceive df and da people to be.. personally i think they accept or more correctly badger members who are really brain dead into giving.

  or do attendants guard contribution boxes to stop such non existent people from putting money in.

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  Really dead, spiritually dead, dead from the neck up, dead to them, dead as a dodo.

  WT will take any money they can get. Dead or Alive!

  If Judas Iscariot walked into Brooklyn with 30 pieces of silver, would they take it? Maybe, just maybe not.
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  2016 Memorial Done & Dusted

  by steve2 in

  1. watchtower
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  well on this side of the planet, the southern hemisphere/ new zealand, the 2016 memorial service in local kingdom halls will be over for another year.

  another great big anticlimax.

  some family and relatives will have gone - but unless i ask my sister, i generally have no idea about attendance and partaker numbers.

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  >moomanchu

  The Bible doesn't say that Judas wasn't there when the wine and bread were passed; that is a JW construct.
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  It's so awkward that people have to touch the emblems

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it's just so weird to me.

  for a group that is against idolatry so much and yet each person has to "touch" the bread and wine.. one lady was standing and holding a baby.

  she called the server over just so she could put her thumb on the bread and wine.. did jesus ever clarify what he wanted them to do in remembrance of him?

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  @ Island man

  What you write is an excellent analysis of the memorial "celebration". Just to say that the study copy of the WT Jan 15th 2016 on page 25 does have a picture of a "partaker", bread in hand. (it is to "help" us see how we should treat "partakers"!) It will be studied this week at the congregation WT study.