"Evidently" eh, Ben131895? Where have I heard that before?
Google "Anne Frank ballpoint pen myth".
Posts by freddo
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43Freedom of speech?
by The Rebel inattending my boys parents evening it was mentiond they were to study the " diary of anne frank".
( he is 10 years old) i pointed out to the teacher that having read the book, in my option the book was not written entirely by anne frank, and i would educate my boy on why i believe this to be so.. in my mind this was a totally reasonable responce by me, but it has resulted in the head-master of the school wanting to meet with me.
i think it wrong that an educational system will i suspect meet with me and presumably suggest my options on the " anne frank diary" constitute hate speech, as nothing could be further from the truth.. freedom of speech is never absolute, but at what point do you think it reasonable and justified?
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Freedom of speech?
by The Rebel inattending my boys parents evening it was mentiond they were to study the " diary of anne frank".
( he is 10 years old) i pointed out to the teacher that having read the book, in my option the book was not written entirely by anne frank, and i would educate my boy on why i believe this to be so.. in my mind this was a totally reasonable responce by me, but it has resulted in the head-master of the school wanting to meet with me.
i think it wrong that an educational system will i suspect meet with me and presumably suggest my options on the " anne frank diary" constitute hate speech, as nothing could be further from the truth.. freedom of speech is never absolute, but at what point do you think it reasonable and justified?
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freddo
David Irving is completely discredited.
An English court ruling - where he sued Deborah Lipstadt for (in her book Denying the Holocaust) calling him a Holocaust denier was that "he is an active Holocaust denier ... anti-Semitic and racist ... he associates with right wing extremists who promote neo-Nazism."
The Appeal Lord Justices refused him leave to appeal and he was bankrupted over costs.
Funnily enough after being arrested in Austria he changed his tune and admitted that "The Nazis did murder millions of Jews..."
He still got sentenced to imprisonment mind ...
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May 21, 2016 TO ALL CONGREGATIONS Re: Annual Items for 2017
by wifibandit inmay 21, 2016 to all congregations re: annual items for 2017.
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freddo
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In Italy: Major Newspaper Coverage of the JW Pedophilia Scandal
by Room 215 inthe excellent italian ex-jw website geova.org directs its readers' attention to two big news articles on the jw pedophilia problem.
milan-based il corriere della sera is one of italy's most respected newspapers:.
http://www.corriere.it/video-articoli/2016/05/11/i-testimoni-geova-casi-pedofilia-non-denunciati/919c8e32-1794-11e6-aaf6-1f69bf4270d2.shtml.
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freddo
I got the gist using google translate but if someone fluent could translate that would be easier going.
How embarrassing! After decades of hearing the JW's vilify the Catholic church about child abuse, Italians can retort - "Well, you're no better!"
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"The Bunker" WT Conventions 2016 (Gag Me)
by Poztate inin the very near future the gang will be down in a bunker,cellar awaiting the police,military to break in and take them away to camps or executions .
(paranoid much) this is the foretold "prophecy" of the governments turning on religion and saving them for last.since the couple portrayed as simplifying their life by getting rid of a lot of material things is shown to be (about) the same age in the bunker we know it must be any minute now that it will happen.
i have been out for over 35 years and things seem to be getting more bizarre each year.. when did this doctrine really become main stream?
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freddo
Yup late 60's early 70's. Just the same in England as where you guys and gals were.
Like Sail Away said the older ones remembered the Nazis, we heard about Malawi (beaten to death/rapes) and we "knew" the persecution was coming down the 'pike. And demons everywhere.
No wonder I wet the bed as a kid!
Yes, why did my stupid parent fall for this ridiculous religion - and why did I fall for it for so long?
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What's your favourite feel good movie ?
by jhine inmaybe it's time for a less serious thread .
i have just finished watching dirty dancing ( again ) .
what is your feel good movie , the one that makes you smile and cry happy tears ?
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freddo
Toy Story 3
Despicable Me
Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone
Zulu (1964)
Dead Poet's Society
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Believing Your Story is Real?
by new boy inthis is my 200th topic after 14 years here on the board.
i hope i can make it a good one.
so my topic is stories.
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freddo
I think job/religion/hobby/nationality/married/parent/son/daughter etc. are all facets of each one of us. We identify ourselves by the context of the question and probably what we feel proudest (or least embarrassed) about at the time. -
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Did The Witnesses Predict the United Nations in Advance?
by TD init's been reported on this forum that bethel speakers at this summer's conventions are asserting that the establishment of the united nations in 1945 was predicted in advance by the witnesses.
this is being presented as validation of the claim that the witnesses are god's one true organization directed by holy spirit.. .
the basis for this claim originates with a public address entitled, peace - can it last given by n.h. knorr at the new world theocratic assembly, on september 20 of 1942. .
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freddo
Bumped for a very good read ...
Also my personal 2nd hand experience about what was taught in 1941.
In 2015 I went to a funeral of a long time jw who was baptised in 1941. Born in 1918, married in 1939 and had her first child in 1941.
The funeral speaker - who for a JW (along with the "what did she believe bit") gave a warm anecdotal talk about this well liked old lady - told a history of her life and background. All her children/grandchildren were there.
When he got to WW2 he said her husband was in the British Army and had arranged for his wife and child to be evacuated from the city she lived in as it was often being bombed by German bombers.
She studied with pioneers; was quickly convinced Armageddon was so close, she ran home to check her baby (being looked after by a neighbour) was safe.
This was told by the speaker in a humorous but kind way as if the old sister had been gullible but nevertheless faithful.
But reading the above posts it's obvious to me she just accepted what she was taught - in 1941 Britain she (and the pioneers who were repeating Rutherford and later Knorr's predictions) could have been forgiven for thinking WW2 would end in Armageddon.
(After all her town was being bombed, her husband was away fighting in the war and for once "the sky is falling" was true!)
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Belgium Bethel on sale...
by sp74bb inaccording to our sources belgium bethel will be very soon closed and the building sold.... selters germany bethel will take care of this area....
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freddo
Belgium for the chop eh? At the hands of Germany? Nothing new here!
Of course "they" visited Selters this weekend. If this is the last one in the jolly round of Europe by Kickout and Flowdown there might soon be some announcements covering all of Europe?
My best hope ...
London - downsize and downsize some more but not until we've sold off the prime London properties and built Chelmsford at a quarter of it's original size.
Selters - take over Europe.
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78 to go and hopefully something good comes of it. Please do your part and sign up. Thanks
by Tenacious inonly 78 signatures are needed in order to send the request to the irs that they revoke or at the very least investigate the borg.
come'on guys, support it.. click here to support and sign up!.
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freddo
Excuse the paranoia but if someone didn't want to be "outed" can they sign up and have their details kept confidential?