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  Ponderings of a Worldly Person

  by Nevuela in

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  35-year-old female in california here.

  never a jw, but have had bible studies and attended several meetings and even a convention once.

  i've always been agnostic with leanings toward the belief in some deity or other, although the more i learned from the jw's, the more i've learned to doubt, not just their teachings, but the fundamental teachings of all religions.

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  freddo

  Well said Landy.
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  If you are still in the organization, do you enjoy the meetings ?

  by Iamallcool in

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  rate it from 1 to 10. thanks!

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  freddo

  Rate it from 1 to 10. Thanks!

  Public Talks: Usually a 1, may be a 2 if it finishes five or more minutes early. I give it a 10 on those rare occasions when the speaker doesn't turn up!

  Watchtower: 0 - 1.

  CLAM: Invariably a zero. Just one long (oh so looooonng!) mash of three meetings in one.
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  Can someone help me

  by stephanie61092 in

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  a girl i've known my entire life who supported me from a distance after i was disfellowshipped sent me this message on instagram today: .

  let me know when your back... i'm unfollowing you on ig & snap.

  i love you.

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  freddo

  Answer her with "Sorry, who are you again?"
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  Ancient Irael, Jehovah and the GB (has anyone considered this before?)

  by LoveUniHateExams in

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  i was just thinking about the wts and child abuse crimes/accusations.. in ancient israel, jehovah used the surrounding nations to punish israel for its wickedness.. seeing as the wts always likes to draw comparison between ancient israel and today, what about today?

  could a witness argue that god is currently using 'worldly' courts to punish jw sex abusers and the wts?.

  has anyone posted this before?

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  freddo

  I went through a phase of this somewhere between being concerned about all the wrongs in JW land and how Jehovah allowed it all - and finally realising that JW land is a fantasy.

  Probably believed it plausible for about two years and trotted it out occasionally to those closest to me as a possible antidote to my doubts.
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  UK Article: Campaigner's 'grave concerns' over new directives for Jehovah's Witnesses

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  2. child-abuse

  http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/local/campaigner-s-grave-concerns-over-new-directives-for-jehovah-s-witnesses-1-8068458.

  campaigner’s ‘grave concerns’ over new directives for jehovah’s witnesses.

  steven rose .

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  freddo

  Oh dear ...
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  The borg is fighting tooth and nail to not turn over sex abuse records, and the press is taking note :)

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
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  https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/aug/12/jehovahs-witnesses-under-pressure-over-handling-of-sexual-abuse-claims.

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  freddo

  This article has appeared in the printed copy of the Guardian today too. Saturday 13th August page 14.
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  Hello Folks

  by Tallon in

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  a newbie here, joined about half an hour ago.

  i started the fade about 10 years ago and have been totally inactive for about 3 years.

  the reason being was that i became totally disillusioned.

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  Hi Tallon! Which part of the world are you from?

  UK here.
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  How much do Olympics athletes earn when they bring home a medal.

  by James Mixon in

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  usa athletes..gold-$25.000 , silver-$15.000, bronze $10.000.

  singapore athletes..gold $741000, silver $371000, bronze $185000.

  unless your m.phelps you don't earn enough.. what is wrong with this picture?

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  freddo

  And the UK ... Zippo!
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  Three graphs in connection with the Watch Tower's current financial situation

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a number of public statements by the governing body indicate that they are experiencing financial difficulty and they have appealed to jws to donate more money.

  public information on the financial situation of the watchtower society is limited.

  but what does the information they do publish indicate about their situation?

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  freddo

  I wouldn't trust "their" figures. They only show what will help the gullible donate more.
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  I've had enough..

  by raven in

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  2. experiences

  so last night, after thinking "wow those pesky elders have finally left me alone, maybe since i skipped out on their jc invitation back on august 1st they've given up" wrong.. i go to check the mail and there's an envelope at my front door- lo and behold, another letter from from these elders.. why won't they leave me alone already?

  i'll attach a picture of the letter.. again, same letter as the first one inviting me to a judicial committee on august 15th - and signed by all three elders.. should i just continue to ignore?

  quite frankly i don't give a rats arse i've been enjoying life free from the mind control of the organization, and i just wish they would drop it and let me live life.. like i mentioned before, i am moving to a new home next week, the only reason these elders have my current address ( which happens to be over 100 miles away from the cong ) is because my mother gave it to them, after i gave it to her in confidence to forward me my mail.. so lets just say she won't be getting my new address... i don't have any contact with ones from this congregation (i'm an ex pioneer, so i'm sure if they've gotten word on what i'm doing, i must be satan himself!

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  freddo

  The Elder book has a line in it about going ahead in absentia if a person "repeatedly" fails to show for a J/C. My money is on the fact they will not go ahead until the second time so that they have their backsides covered on the "repeatedly" point should you appeal on that point.

  As has been mentioned, the elders would have initially had two of the body "investigate" - i.e. get their ducks in a row as in having two witnesses.

  Now you say one witness is "anonymous" - did the elders tell you that or your mother. If your mother said it then you can give it what credence you wish. If the elders said it then that is unusual because you can demand to know who the two witnesses are.

  Maybe they have camped outside your house to get "evidence". If so then they have all they need.

  A letter denying "any judicial wrongdoing" and demanding to know the sources of any witness against you, copied to your branch office might get them off your back if they don't have two witnesses who will stand up and say they know/heard you admit that you have been having an intimate relationship.

  I think you will be DFd soon because it appears they believe they have all they need to do so.