I predict they will not return.
You might get an email with some canned response and then when you blow that out of the water you'll get - at most - a "we'll have to agree to differ and goodbye" reply.
Posts by freddo
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17Can't think how they will respond
by Giles Gray ini've been chatting to the jws the past couple of weeks.the last time they called they showed me a video about a scientist who claimed that she had once been an atheist, but after studying with the jws she had changed her mind and now believed in an intelligent creator.
what had convinced her was the process that activates the functioning of the lungs just after a baby has been born.after we had watched the video, the jws said that there are many people who believe that creation indicates an intelligent designer.in reply i asked them what they thought about the 'unintelligent' aspects of creation and i went into a few examples.at first they tried to write things off to imperfection due to adamic sin, but as the conversation went on they slowly realised that arguing 'imperfection' wasn't an adequate explanation for the points i was making.to cut a long story short, i ended up sending them a video via email where professor dawkins comments on an autopsy that highlights the impracticality of the laryngeal nerve in giraffes.i also sent them evidence of vestigial limbs in whales and a short article about biological atavism.in addition, i sent them an article that coincidentally was on the bbc news a few days ago about a boy in india who had a 7 inch vestigial tail removed.
here is the article i sent them:-http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3823461/the-teenager-7-inch-tail-18-year-old-finally-growth-removed-painful-sit-sleep.htmli'm really looking forward to seeing what they will come back with.
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WOW - 18 Elders in ONE congregation!!!
by The Searcher inhazel grove congregation in stockport, cheshire, u.k.. not only is the congregation saturated with elders, it is/was pretty well saturated with cash - according to its 2014 financial statement to the charities commission.
http://apps.charitycommission.gov.uk/accounts/ends82/0001066282_ac_20140331_e_c.pdf.
its elders are listed as frank broadhurst, nick ashton, nigel bailey, noel crossley, peter davies.
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freddo
The Widdecombe congregation in Devon has amalgamated with the Trumpton congregation of Camberwick Green. Their elders are,
Pugh, Pugh, Barney Mc Grew, Cuthbert, Dibble, Grubb, Flack, Windy Miller, Murphy, Hazel, Bill Brewer, Jan Stewer, Peter Gurney, Peter Davey, Daniel Widden, Harry Hawke and Tom Cobleigh. Oh and Tom Pierce.
That's 18 elders. They are unique in that seven of them are firemen! (Google "Trumpton firemen" if you don't believe me.) One is a miller, one is a baker one is a postman and the remainder (the ex-Widdecombe lot) were done for cruelty to animals (Google Widecombe Fair Song) except for Tom Pierce who went to the police about it.
True story that.
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Chinese Communist Party to commence nationwide crackdown on Christianity including Jehovah's Witnesses
by jwleaks in8 october 2016. china's governing communist party is set to launch a nationwide crackdown on the christian church.. by matthew carney - abc.
the communist party has just enacted much tougher laws that criminalise christians if they do not pledge loyalty to the state.. chinese president xi jinping has warned that all religions now have to become "chinese" and the new laws will attempt to bring churchgoers and their leaders under party control.. the new laws will put the state firmly in charge, giving the communist party the ability to hire and fire church leaders and change religious doctrine to make it more chinese.... that means churchgoers will have to pledge loyalty to the communist party first.. there is good reason to be afraid.
chinese authorities have already started the crackdown in the christian heartland in the southern province of zhejiang.. it's been extensive and brutal.
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freddo
Where does Hong Kong fit in to all of this? Being nominally "autonomous" and being China's link with the west and all.
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Spain: A group of elder requires clarification to Ministry of Justice regarding sexual molestors
by sp74bb inletter sent today to the ministry of justice... .
spain bethel sent a letter recently last oct 3 interpreting that no elder or sm should request a certificate of sexual offenses as other churches or persons in contact with kids.
again jw.org interprets the law to their behalf.. a group of elders in madrid has sent this letter to ask clarification !!.
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freddo
Gotta love the Spanish!
If the Spanish (and Spanish speaking countries') JW's start rebelling then their whole ex Catholic power base is vulnerable!
Mexico, Central and South America, Phillippines, Spanish congregations in the USA ...
Bring it on!
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The Great October 2016 Invite to the Sunday Meeting campaign ...
by freddo inwell how's it going round your way?
massive increase of interested ones?
did you even know it was supposed to be happening?
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freddo
@saename
They do care. But not enough because they are frightened of you (us) and what you (we) represent.
They think they are strong but if they let anyone who knows the ttatt behind their facade they are scared and frightened and terrified.
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New Video Series On Courtship May Open Some Eyes
by JW_Rogue inso the wife was watching the latest installment of jw broadcasting and near the end there was a new segment on dating and courtship.
it starts at about the 39 minute mark:.
https://youtu.be/vuir-azsdm0?t=38m52s.
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freddo
The good news is that the GB are utterly, utterly, utterly out of touch.
They show a Spanish family, dubbed with some northern English accented girl's voice - "Eeeeh! Ecky thump! Micky wants a Beemer! Not on yer nelly as 'eck as like!"
The girl is portrayed as living - as pointed out - in a house that only 10% of the world's population can dream of and is concerned about the lad's "materialism"!
Perhaps if he aspired to be on the GB and buy a lakeside apartment in upstate New York, have a big comfy office chair and a shiny TV studio from which to beam patronising sugary drivel to 8 million minions then she'd see his true spiritual worth.
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The Great October 2016 Invite to the Sunday Meeting campaign ...
by freddo inwell how's it going round your way?
massive increase of interested ones?
did you even know it was supposed to be happening?
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@steve2
It's not a big chart - it's just the hall servant's job to "do the count" and he puts the figures on a little chart on a small slip of paper which remains on the noticeboard until the end of the month then is handed to the secretary or put in the report box for him to put the figures wherever he puts them for the CO to beat up the elders with at the CO visit!
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Which Org 'directives' did you blatantly ignore
by Tallon ini remember that we were always encouraged to let everyone at work know that you were one of jw's and therefore would not participate in any of their functions, parties etc.. this i outrightly refused to do.
my reasoning was that i was employed and paid to do a job and therefore my religious beliefs were a personal matter and therefore had nothing to do with my work.
secondly i had to work with these people.
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@scratchme1010
You had sex at the memorial????
How did you manage that? Enquiring (aka nosey, not minding their own business,) minds want to know ...
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The Great October 2016 Invite to the Sunday Meeting campaign ...
by freddo inwell how's it going round your way?
massive increase of interested ones?
did you even know it was supposed to be happening?
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freddo
Well how's it going round your way? Massive increase of interested ones? Did you even know it was supposed to be happening? No? Well put your experiences up in this thread please.
Round my way the congregation puts its numbers up on a slip of paper on the noticeboard. We now have two results in and this is our results for October so far ...
Cong has 75 publishers
Sunday October 2nd - Drum roll please ... 45 in attendance! Plus "twelve listening on line".
Sunday October 9th - Drum Roll and baboom Tish! ... 55 plus ten!
Theocracy's great increase is truly astounding. These are even worse than our normal figures Bwahahahahaha!
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Which Org 'directives' did you blatantly ignore
by Tallon ini remember that we were always encouraged to let everyone at work know that you were one of jw's and therefore would not participate in any of their functions, parties etc.. this i outrightly refused to do.
my reasoning was that i was employed and paid to do a job and therefore my religious beliefs were a personal matter and therefore had nothing to do with my work.
secondly i had to work with these people.
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freddo
I ignored the directive not to masturbate.
(Not that I didn't have a conscience to start with but what with no mention of it in the bible - Onanism doesn't count, sorry - I soon stopped feeling guilty.)