we've seen one backflip.
crooked hillary became a hard-working woman who deserves the nations praise (in his victory speech);.
now according to a uk newspaper:.
I hope it bodes better for the USA. (and the rest of the world because when you guys sneeze we catch a cold)
The more power Hitler got the more disastrous his dictatorship became. In power January 1933. All check on his power gone when Paul von Hindenburg died in summer 1934. Ramping up his war rhetoric and persecution of the Jews and minorities 1935 - 1938. Then WW2.
But as soon as Trump is voted in he moderates his more extreme rhetoric. Good. At least he is listening.
I hope.
https://jwadvisor.blogspot.co.uk/2016/07/leakinginfo.html.
jehovah's witness advisor.
leakinginfo: what can be done to find out who is leaking documents?.
I can't believe that "JW Advisor" is not awake to some degree. And nuts to some degree.
the jw prohibition of celebrating holidays includes the american celebration of thanksgiving, a sort of innocuous harvest festival, where thanks is given for the year's blessings.
a typical family eats a large meal together, including turkey and all the trimmings.
in recent decades, nfl football, always involving the dallas cowboys and detroit lions, has become part of the routine, as well as drinking beer.. every year or so, the "awake!
Yup! UK here so not Thanksgiving but Xmas/New Year time.
When myself as an elder (then) and two other male relatives as elders would descend upon the great JW Matriarch (My Aunt Doris) with our pioneer wives and our families often including a bethelite or two between Xmas and New Year to have what we jokingly called the "Not Xmas/Not New Year Party" at Auntie's/Mum's/Gran's house.
No tree or paper hats of course but charades and games and TV and booze and good food was had by all.
i am incredibly disturbed.
many of the jws i'm still friends with on facebook are incredibly excited that trump won the american presidential race, posting, "yay!
i'm so happy!
Just type "Luke 21 v 8" as a reply. Like this:
Luke 21 v 8
is there a biblical basis for separation or divorce?.
in the event that one of the spouses is being psychologically mistreated in a very serious manner where his health is severely damaged and even his own life is in danger.
is there a biblical basis for jehovah's witnesses for separation or divorce?.
Welcome Conias.
Yes there is.
Separation. (Legal non scriptural divorce may be taken too)
Wilful non-support (financially)
Extreme physical abuse
Absolute endangerment of one's spirituality.
It is up to the individual to decide if his/her situation fits and take action. They will likely get pressure from busy bodies/including elders.
But it is up to them.
The problem is those that are abused by a dominant spouse find it difficult to think straight and get support to make a stand.
thier talk at this summers district conventions about shunning faders was a bit unclear and many said it was pointing out that only jws were to shun wrongdoers not specifically faders.
this new broadcast makes it now obvious that those who leave the meetings have left jehovah so therefore they are to be shunned as a form of discipline.
there can be no mistake that they do not want any of thier cult members associating with faders or those that have left the cult.
@ Blondie
OK ... Go to JWbroadcasting. Loesch introduces the November one with some drone helper.
At about 19.00 a clip is introduced. At about 20.30 you see a Portuguese? Kingdom Hall and the mother narrating says "Our son Levi was no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses" (meaning DF'd or DA'd) and around this point she and hubby hold hands as Elder 1 steps aside from the podium and Elder 2 announces "no longer a jw" in the background language (Portuguese?).
At about 24.00 Gabrielle tells us it's been 5 years now but he has "not returned to Jehovah". So of course she pioneers regularly.
thier talk at this summers district conventions about shunning faders was a bit unclear and many said it was pointing out that only jws were to shun wrongdoers not specifically faders.
this new broadcast makes it now obvious that those who leave the meetings have left jehovah so therefore they are to be shunned as a form of discipline.
there can be no mistake that they do not want any of thier cult members associating with faders or those that have left the cult.
@Crazyguy
You missed a bit I think. Watch the clip again. There is an announcement that he (the son) is no longer a jw. That's the modern hip way of saying DFD or DA'D in jw land.
november broadcast is up:.
https://www.jw.org/download/?fileformat=mp4&output=html&pub=jwb&issue=201611.
we learn interesting things.
Jaydubyaborg FAQ paints a less than truthful view too.
Do Jehovah's Witnesses Shun Former Members of Their Religion?
"What of a man who is disfellowshipped but whose wife and children are still Jehovah's Witnesses? The religious ties he had with his family change, but blood ties remain. The marriage relationship and normal family affections and dealings continue."
Filthy liars. When those children reach the age of majority the shunning is expected to commence! (If not before)
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And as for "Round the Corner" tra-la-tra-la! Round the bend more like!
november broadcast is up:.
https://www.jw.org/download/?fileformat=mp4&output=html&pub=jwb&issue=201611.
we learn interesting things.
Love the way the parents mope around - it's all about them isn't it?
Also notice how the GB try to sanitize it all by having the lad walking out (or the Swedish girl at the summer assembly) not being chucked out as is what the GB really want to happen.
I'm glad the bastards put the rejected phone call in. And the 5 years and no return.
As the above posters wrote - they are in a downward spiral and desperate.
140 years of "round the corner". Utter bollocks.
Oh yeah! "Truthful" Loesch - isn't he the one who runs away from the Superior Authorities and hides behind evasive statements presented to court about a child abuse case?
how many witnesses are aware that technically, according to watchtower policy, they can if they wish too...associate with dissociated and disfellowshipped relatives.
for all those who are dissociated or disfellowshipped, please share this with your relatives who are currently shunning you.
there is nothing the elders can do as long as they are not discussing spiritual matters.
Yebbut they have their little catch all of "brazen conduct" and "causing divisions" to layer on top when they make their decision and are then called upon to justify it.
As in it may not be a JC offence of itself but it is causing divisions in the congregation and they are being brazen about it.
The CO will back them to the hilt saying he will not overrule what is a question of judgement.
