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  Copy of Crisis of Conscience for Sale

  by Village Idiot in

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  i’ve run into hard financial times and have decided to sell my second copy of coc for a fair price.

  you’ll find them on amazon for ridiculous prices starting from $59.84 for a beat up used one to $294.96 and up for a new condition copy.

  i’m selling mine in new condition for $50.00 plus shipping which should not be more than $5.

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  freddo

  I paid £48 (GBP) a year ago so I suggest someone goes for it quickly.
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  Article: Public event in Laval to honour Jehovah's Witness who died after giving birth

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  2. medical

  http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/dupuis-memorial-jehovahs-witness-1.3857367.

  public event in laval to honour jehovah's witness who died after giving birth.

  éloïse dupuis refused emergency blood transfusion, now her aunt wants civil code amended to protect others.

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  freddo

  @DS

  That seems a bit grudging. Hopefully I am reading it wrong.

  Barbara Anderson has more bravery in standing up to and exposing the JW hierarchy in her little finger than I have in my whole body. She and her husband could've shut up, sucked up and stayed in relative comfort in Bethel, but she gave that up - and through no fault of her own a relationship with her son - to genuinely help people see the wicked and damaging flaws in JW'ism.

  I'd hate for her to feel unappreciated.
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  The uptake...

  by Thisismein1972 in

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  with recent events pointing at watchtower growth, i felt compelled to say a few words.. if the figures turn out to be true, then we should not be discouraged.

  after 9/11 there was a surge in, not only the watchtower, but other demonisation of organised religion.

  whenever there is a a paradigm shifting event that puts fear into others, this tends to have a life changing affect on an individual.. now let us zoom to the present.

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  freddo

  Excellent post David Jay.

  For me 1975 should have woken me up but in my defence I was only a teenager then, being brought up in it. But 1995 (first big generation change) should certainly have woken me up - although looking back that was when I think the doubts started.

  I have lived through the only reported reverse of numbers (1977 and 1978 I think) and it didn't make a difference to me.

  But I think that seeing another reverse in figures would help me in that I believe this would be the beginning of a decline rather than a blip before a further large increase.

  A "ship of fools" as you describe them puts it well.
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  Memories of Grace Gough

  by Mary in

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  hi everyone;i'm not on here too much anymore, but i've been asked to write a brief biography of our dear grace gough ('mouthy' on here).

  i'm writing my own memories of her but it was also suggested that i maybe contact others who knew her to see if they had a nice memory or two of her they'd like to share.

  it would only have to be a paragraph or two and your name can be kept confidential if you like.

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  freddo

  @George

  Good question.
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  Hello everyone

  by Lancashirelass in

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  i just wanted to add my name to the many number of people who have awakened from the cult.

  i have been lurking for probably 2 years now.

  and i'm quite certain there are many more lurking and reading just like me.. i have to be honest and say that i most likely will not be contributing much to the discussion board.

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  freddo

  Welcome LL! Contribute much please.
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  Was king David condemned for having a soft spot for absalom

  by poopie in

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  whadya think.

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  freddo

  A soft spot for Absalom? Why would David be condemned for that?

  He wasn't condemned for having a "hard spot" for Bathsheba was he? Who suffered for that little episode? Her husband did and of course the baby that lingered to death for a week at the hands of Jehovah.
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  Need input: elders showed up at our door today

  by de-opresso-liber in

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  2. experiences

  so as i announced last week, my wife and i started our fade and i sent in a letter to our body that i was stepping down and cited the arc as the reason and insisted that we not be bothered.

  my wife told a few relatives in person that we weren't going to attend meetings any longer (immediate shunning occurred, the new videos must be effective) and that what we found with the arc shocked us etc etc.

  i have an inside track on how this is all going down by an awake elder on the body, co told them to handle the matter quickly.

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  freddo

  If you have an elder on the inside helping you then can't you ask him what their intention is?

  Rest assured they are there to ask you the "Do you believe the GB are the FDS" question.

  If cornered just lie if you don't want to be DFD just yet.

  But why let them corner you?
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  Unofficial Year Texts

  by sir82 in

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  just got done watching the november broadcast.

  for the umpteenth time this year, the message was clear: "shun your adult children, no matter how painful it is for you".. which got me thinking, the "real" message that the watchtower wants to impart to its adherents seems to be varying year over year.

  if they were honest, their "year texts" would reflect that.. here is my compendium of what the true" year texts have been of late:.

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  freddo

  I beg to differ:

  2013: Silver Sword! The Bible to Last You Until Armageddon.

  2014: What Will 100 Years of Kingdom Rule Bring?

  2015: Don't You Go Saying We Said The End Would Come!

  2016: The Two Golden Rules: Donate and Shun Loyally!

  2017: We Err. Who Cares? Don't You Dare!
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  Dutch JW convention hall for sale.

  by Anders Andersen in

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  2. friends

  as the newly expanded convention hall in swifterbant is now in use, the only other jw convention hall in the netherlands is now for sale.. https://congreshal.nl/english/ (congreshal means convention center).. note the links to the brooklyn and ibsa garage sales at the bottom of the page..

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  freddo

  Just think of all those "exemplary" brothers that worked on it and built it so that "we can get away from worldly venues" who will see Theocracy's decrease in action.

  And that little group of circuit heavies, pioneers and wives who volunteer to maintain it and sit behind desks up there and make a note of the time spent doing it on their ministry reports. And the Hall Overseer who will be chucked out of his apartment and be told to go and be warm and well fed.

  Tough. You'll have to go and stand next to a trolley cart instead.
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  Canada Bethel (Georgetown) to begin renovations early 2017

  by Richard_I in

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  a letter was just read at my midweek meeting that georgetown (canada bethel) will have renovations done on it beginning spring 2017. the letter asked for publishers who are electricians/plumbers/etc.

  and in good standing to apply to help out.

  those helping out will be considered "part-time commuters" and will only be at the property for about 3 days a week and must reside outside of bethel and pay for all their own expenses.

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  GB thought process.

  Right remember how the Nazis made folk dig their own graves? Well, we need to empty Bethel and maybe sell it so let's fire everyone we can. Then when the place is almost empty we can renovate it so that it would make a good business HQ for a buyer by asking any of the old bethelites and the new bethelite wannabees to volunteer to commute on their own dime while giving up their secular work.

  When the job is done we can send nearly all of them away and A) save loads of money B) have a nice new property worth loads of money C) sell it when we like!