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  Surprise Elders Visit

  by Tight Pants Twinkle Toes in

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  2. beliefs

  hello community!

  quick background - baptized 1971, 46 years in the borg, former elder.

  wife - baptized 1973, pioneer...... we became disgusted with the oranization 10 years ago but still believed it was the truth.

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  freddo

  With apostasy they should only go judicial after a second admonition according to their elder book.

  The WT ref is this:

  *** w88 4/15 p. 27 par. 5 Discipline That Can Yield Peaceable Fruit ***

  "The same was to occur with apostates, such as Hymenaeus: “As for a man that promotes a sect, reject him after a first and a second admonition;"

  However the definition is quite narrow as in promoting a sect.
  

  The time gap makes me think they have consulted the CO or the Branch Office who have said go back and give it a go to snatch you out of the fire cover their backs.
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  The Alliances for Constitutional Sex Offenders Laws

  by John Davis in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i was listening to the news today and heard of this organization.

  it advocates for the removal of sex offenders registries or at least the reduction of its use and who has to register for it.

  just one example of its work is to advocate for what the la district attorney's office is doing by working with sex offenders to get their names off the registry.

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  The last sentence in their manifesto makes me wonder why "the lady doth protest too much, methinks" ...

  But I do think that consensual sex between "normal" (as in one of them is not vulnerable mentally) teenagers in the 15 - 19 age range who are up to only a couple of years apart - has a different flavour than grooming and abuse.
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  The denial of 1975 when and how did they go about it.

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i was pretty young in 1975, all i remember was a few complaining at the hall after and those at the door that razed us over it.

  does anyone remember how they went about denying it and when this started.

  i do remember a scripture in psalms about people being mighty and living longer so this was used.

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  freddo

  And as the 1970's progressed into the 1980's we all "knew" that "the generation" was getting along in years and so subconsciously 1975 mattered less.

  Then in 1984 we had the elderly bethelites depicted on the front cover of the May 15th 1984 WT with the proclamation of "1914 - The Generation That Will Not Pass Away."

  With comments such as the preaching work being completed in our 20th century (then changed on the CD-Rom) and this doozy from the 1971 "Know Jehovah" book. - still to be found on the 2014 CD-Rom.

  *** kj chap. 12 p. 216 par. 9 “Until He Comes Who Has the Legal Right” ***

  Shortly, within our twentieth century, the “battle in the day of Jehovah” will begin against the modern antitype of Jerusalem, Christendom.

  We were like the frog in the pan - warmed to boiling over 20 years. Then in 1995 it all came crashing down and now Armageddon overlaps and drifts but is of course imminent!
  
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  What made you stay "in" even when you knew it wasn't the "truth"?

  by mentalclarity in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so i've been thinking a lot about why i stayed a jw for so long even though i had always had doubts about the doctrines.

  i was born into the religion, left and came back as an adult for another decade.

  some of the things that come to mind (besides the threat of shunning-and this isn't to minimize that very real threat) was:.

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  freddo

  You've posted that before Giordano - in another thread.

  I'm glad you posted it again.

  It's brilliant.
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  Baby update and quick hello.

  by Darkknight757 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i wanted to take a moment to give a quick baby update.

  my last post mentioned that we lost twin b at 17 weeks but twin a is doing well so far.

  we are 25 weeks tomorrow and a week past the point of viability so we are starting to get really exited for this new adventure in our lives.

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  Fantastic!
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  What is behind your choice of forum user name?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just curious how we all think.. what prompted or influenced your choice of username for this forum?.

  there are some really amazing names, and it would be great to hear the stories behind them.... mine was nothing fancy.

  i just felt "stuck in a rut too" along with so many others.

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  freddo

  Completely anonymous simple name that has no meaning whatsoever.

  When I first joined/posted on here I was an elder and I thought everyone in "JWland" would be scouring every thread to find me, report me and DF me.

  That was over 8 years ago ...
  

  The only other slight link with reality is that "Freddo" is a very small two bite piece of chocolate by Cadbury's which when my kids were younger we would buy them as a little treat on the way home from school. It's also a frog of course ...

  https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjTuL-oncnUAhWMIsAKHd42AosQFghFMAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.telegraph.co.uk%2Fnews%2F2017%2F01%2F13%2Ffreddo-chocolate-bar-price-rise-30p%2F&usg=AFQjCNETjmvmagtOq2nrNqLNG6gC4w5WFQ
  
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  White clean shaven man runs over muslims

  by silentbuddha in

  1. social
  2. current

  so in england they report a "white clean-shaven man" mowed down worshippers at a mosque.

  why do they never make such detailed descriptions when muslims do the same?.

  i hope this event isn't a bad turning point.

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  In the UK, a "white van man" is a stereotypical description of a somewhat careless and reckless delivery driver who exceeds the speed limit and jumps traffic lights.

  White van man may take on a new meaning now?
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  What made you stay "in" even when you knew it wasn't the "truth"?

  by mentalclarity in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so i've been thinking a lot about why i stayed a jw for so long even though i had always had doubts about the doctrines.

  i was born into the religion, left and came back as an adult for another decade.

  some of the things that come to mind (besides the threat of shunning-and this isn't to minimize that very real threat) was:.

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  freddo

  Firstly my being naive enough that any concerns and doubts I had would be answered or respected. Then when I realised that was obviously dopey thinking on my part, the loss of family relationships if I DA'D.

  I even hunkered down and "tried harder" for a couple of years and tried to bury my doubts. But I think once we got to 2010 to 2015 (so that there was no way I could fool myself that the generation that saw 1914 might still survive to Armageddon) - gasped at the desperate idiocy of "the overlapping generation" and seeing Steven Lett, dancing trolley carts and DFD daughters phone calls to parents being ignored in convention dramas - well that finished me off.

  The ARC, money grabbing/closing Kingdom halls/booting bethelites, just confirms that if there is a god who cares he certainly doesn't care about Jborg and all its cult adherents.
  
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  William Malenfant's appalling hate speech - latest morning worship video

  by doubtfull1799 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so he tries to prove that we are living in the last days without any evidence, but instead a series of unsubstantiated assertions ("never has there been a time with so much lack love and affection").

  and uses things that are not even part of the so-called "sign" (abortions, pollution).

  then proceeds to ridicule the "ridiculers," stereotype them, and declare they are only fit for destruction!.

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  freddo

  Willie the Smellefant.

  To Bethel
  A traveling circus came
  They bought an intelligent elephant
  And Willie was his name.

  Willie the Elephant packed his trunk
  And said hello to the circus
  In he went with a trumpety-trump
  Trump, trump, trump

  
  Willie the Elephant packed his trunk
  And spouted off on jborg

  On he went with a trumpety-trump
  Trump, trump, trump
  
  Night by night
  He danced to the GB's band
  When Willie was leading the big parade
  He looked so proud and grand
  Lots of tricks
  For Willie to perform
  They taught him how to take a bow
  And he took the crowd by storm
  
  
  But the head of the herd was calling
  Far, far away
  They overlapped in the silver light
  On the road to Mandalay
  Willie the Elephant packed his trunk
  And said hello to the graveyard
  Off he went before the last trump
  Trump, trump, trump!
  
  
  
  
  
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  Russian BOE letters of instruction - meetings and $$$ matter$

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  these letters can be found in the original russian on jwforum.eu.. i will provide links but also copy and paste the english translation that was provided for each one.. this first letter was dated may 21, 2017 and concerns instructions on how to handle the donation$.

  (*bolding is mine).

  we should not make the same boxes for all groups.

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  freddo

  On a positive note - if they are being split into little groups for meetings then there is more chance that said group will not suck so strongly on the teat of the WT.