Posts by freddo

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I need some help

by Akid48 in

well let me start with my age is 13 and i have been thinking about this jw thing and i need help i just dont know if i want to be one any more.. the help i need is some one to send me some links to places i can research i just dont know if i want to study with a jw any more..

freddo

"Akid"

I wish I knew what happened at death. I don't - despite being an ex elder and having been a jw pretty much all my life from young childhood. But I no longer trust the jw explanation of earth for some and heaven for a few and death at "Armageddon" for billions.

If you are to see your parents again - and if I am to see my dead loved ones again I do not believe it is dependent upon a religion/cult that for nearly 140 years has got every prophecy wrong, only had an earthly hope on offer for the last 80 years or so and can't predict when Armageddon is coming if at all. (See Luke 21 v 8)

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I need some help

by Akid48 in

well let me start with my age is 13 and i have been thinking about this jw thing and i need help i just dont know if i want to be one any more.. the help i need is some one to send me some links to places i can research i just dont know if i want to study with a jw any more..

freddo

If your parents died when you were five then you may well get a lot of "don't you want to see your parents in the resurrection?" type of stuff.

The resurrection "hope" "brought in" a lot of adults, let alone a youngster.

Have you thought about how you will deal with that kind of emotional manipulation? (Which is what I now believe it is)

Not an easy time for you especially if you are only 13.

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What in the flying F....????

by ILoveTTATT2 in

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https://www.facebook.com/tupuebloesmipueblojehova/videos/578539175868967/?hc_ref=arrvbqq6myd5outlusr6zufmvffwsvr_duxl_fdriuhhniiuesiylhi43gybtziknxwthis video gave me cancer..

freddo

No Golden Calf AKA jwborg symbol to dance around? Well not yet anyway ...

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The "slave's" dogma depicts Satan as being more powerful than Jehovah!

by The Fall Guy in

according to the org's "guardians of doctrine," (g.o.d.

's) the figurative woman who's mentioned in revelation chapter 12 is none other than god almighty's heavenly organization - with its myriads upon myriads of powerful spirit creatures.. it-2 p. 187 - "it would follow that the “woman” is god’s “wife,” the “jerusalem above,” the “mother” of christ and his spiritual brothers.

" jv chap.

freddo

Agreed "Londo" - it's strange that Satan who is merely a "bad angel" should be so feared by God's angelic forces - especially when they have just been able to boot him and his angels out of heaven in 1914. Or is it now circa. 1914?

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The "slave's" dogma depicts Satan as being more powerful than Jehovah!

by The Fall Guy in

according to the org's "guardians of doctrine," (g.o.d.

's) the figurative woman who's mentioned in revelation chapter 12 is none other than god almighty's heavenly organization - with its myriads upon myriads of powerful spirit creatures.. it-2 p. 187 - "it would follow that the “woman” is god’s “wife,” the “jerusalem above,” the “mother” of christ and his spiritual brothers.

" jv chap.

freddo

Hi "The Fall Guy".

I get completely what you are saying about why would God's heavenly organisation be fearful of Satan the babysnatcher?

Good thought provoking post.

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Victoria Derbyshire TV show on shunning - video link

by Isambard Crater in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyzbjz8x9y4.

freddo

I read the BBC news website as a news item (I guess to promote the show) and thought it rather poorly researched and somewhat inaccurate.

However, having watched the programme I think it is excellent, showing sensible honest decent folk; not bitter rabid apostates. (though certainly very sad at the deluded actions of their jw family and friends at the behest of Tomo and co.)

Very good indeed. The emails read by Victoria Derbyshire afterwards largely gave support to what was being said.

I believe it will ensure less people get caught up in the stupidity and delusion of jw-ism.

BRAVO!

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Do You Ever Think Of ALL The Wasted Time Because You Were a JW?

by minimus in

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the longer you are out the more you see how a cult steals all your time, resources and energy.

we wasted so much because we were witnesses!

👎.

freddo

A little.

But I truly see no point in looking back with regret even though I am in my mid fifties and made some unwise financial decisions (mostly inaction toward retirement planning rather than stupid moves with any spare money) which over the last five to ten years I have slowly tried to rectify.

I love the extra time that being a "name only" semi-active jw allows me to enjoy.

I especially love shrugging my shoulders and smiling at elders who try - less and less now - to get me to reconsider "reaching out" to what I "once was". (To them a busy elder - to me a busy fool.)

I also have a little group of like minded "brothers" around the circuit that I can vent with and socialise with even to the extent of laughing with each other about Stephen Lett, winking at the CO's "spin" on meeting attendance and ministry, shaking our heads at the mental cases that have become a significant number in our kingdom halls and rolling our eyes at Regional Convention crappery!

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Have you ever looked back at your early posts on here?

by stuckinarut2 in

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no doubt we are all overjoyed at how we have progressed since breaking the shackles of the society!.

for those that have been here on this forum for some time, have you ever looked back at the version of "you" that first started posting here, and compared yourself with where you are at now?.

i am overjoyed at how much i have grown as a person!.

freddo

I was less sure that the basic tenets of JW'ism were wrong and I agonised about the consequences of resigning as an elder. Now I am much more settled in my mind and outlook.

I was a bit of a wanker back then. No change there.

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A review of the WT study, "Do not let your love grow cold."

by doubtfull1799 in

a while ago someone (i forget who) was doing a series, a regular analysis, of wt studies from the current week.

i have't seen any for a while so i thought i'd contribute one.

have a bit of fun picking out all the unsubstantiated assertions and logical fallacies etc... so here goes: (if you enjoy it let me know and i might try doing another.

freddo

I also noted the "evidently" single sister aged about 50 who was obviously supporting herself and studying hard and using her DiY skills to help the older sister.

I could not help but feel sad for her even though she is a Watchtower construct. I imagined her as a young woman, pioneering in the 1980's assuredly telling folk that this system wouldn't last beyond the generation that saw 1914.

I imagined her in her 30's doubling down when the generation definition started to change in 1995 and she put off having children and marriage because she could do those things in paradise.

Then her 40's when thoughts of "where else would I go" might be suppressed. And now in her 50's making the best of a menial job and plodding round houses on the ministry studying with mental cases to parade her deluded beliefs as a cure-all.

But maybe that is just my construct?

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Dunkirk.

by zeb in

i have just seen the film "dunkirk".

do yourselves a big favour and go see it.

(not for kids).

freddo

I disagree Steel.

As Waton lived through - any pro German feeling had dwindled by the late spring of 1940 and having smashed through the low countries and northern France they were not wanting to let the British escape.

Stretched German supply lines after six weeks of blitzkrieg met determined resistance at the coast from all the British could throw at them.

Remember the Royal Navy had scores of ships which were vital in the success of the operation and had guns that could fire fifteen miles inland and the RAF brought the Spitfire in to the front line in numbers and so could match the Me 109's and let the Hurricanes take on the Stukas, Heinkels and Me 110's.

England was only just over 20 miles away and so civilians were able to muster the flotilla of small ships which enabled the rescue.

I am not painting Dunkirk as anything but a defeat - but it wasn't a defeat in which the Germans could have walked in and taken 400,000 men and materiel prisoner.